Homosexuality In US Today

[Magic 8-Ball]

I meant JewCon   I'm apparently way behind on forum news that I didn't want to know

My mistake.

You could always drink until you feel better.  Just don't drink too much, or you'll feel worse...

That's exactly how the homosexuals got my uncle

That's the first thing that's gotten me to laugh today.

[Phony Moderate]

To be honest, being an Athiest isn't normal, at least not in America....

That's not normal anywhere.

I think that Sweden has an Athiest population of about 85%.

[Magic 8-Ball]

To be honest, being an Athiest isn't normal, at least not in America....

That's not normal anywhere.

I think that Sweden has an Athiest population of about 85%.

Please try again.

[Phony Moderate]

To be honest, being an Athiest isn't normal, at least not in America....

That's not normal anywhere.

I think that Sweden has an Athiest population of about 85%.

Please try again.

Society determines what is normal and what isn't, and since Athiesm is so popular in Swedish society, it's normal.

[Magic 8-Ball]

To be honest, being an Athiest isn't normal, at least not in America....

That's not normal anywhere.

I think that Sweden has an Athiest population of about 85%.

Please try again.

Society determines what is normal and what isn't, and since Athiesm is so popular in Swedish society, it's normal.

Still not getting it...

[Phony Moderate]

To be honest, being an Athiest isn't normal, at least not in America....

That's not normal anywhere.

I think that Sweden has an Athiest population of about 85%.

Please try again.

Society determines what is normal and what isn't, and since Athiesm is so popular in Swedish society, it's normal.

Still not getting it...

....

[The Age Wave]

I agree with you my fellow PA Democrat. Homosexuality is not natural and it could possibly be considered a disease. It is not normal. I admit that I feel bad for gay people because of how they are treated but you also have to consider that no one would know they were gay if they didnt act so weird all the time carrying purses and flapping their hands at you.

[Magic 8-Ball]

To be honest, being an Athiest isn't normal, at least not in America....

That's not normal anywhere.

I think that Sweden has an Athiest population of about 85%.

Please try again.

Society determines what is normal and what isn't, and since Athiesm is so popular in Swedish society, it's normal.

Still not getting it...

....

I'll give you a hint: what's the opposite of theism?

[MaxQue]

I agree with you my fellow PA Democrat. Homosexuality is not natural and it could possibly be considered a disease. It is not normal. I admit that I feel bad for gay people because of how they are treated but you also have to consider that no one would know they were gay if they didnt act so weird all the time carrying purses and flapping their hands at you.

Please do return to the Republican Party. We don't want you.

[Alcon]

I agree with you my fellow PA Democrat. Homosexuality is not natural and it could possibly be considered a disease. It is not normal. I admit that I feel bad for gay people because of how they are treated but you also have to consider that no one would know they were gay if they didnt act so weird all the time carrying purses and flapping their hands at you.

I was going to reply to these seriously until the last sentence.  I'm annoyed by flamboyant displays of sexual orientation, hetero or homo (boobs on mudflaps?).  But I can confirm that the vast majority of both heterosexuals and homosexuals I know make no bones about their sexual orientation, but also don't need to constantly remind people of them.  And I live in an area where the ones that can pass for straight are less likely to closet themselves, so my sample is probably a bit more representative.  bah, anyway...

If you are serious, I'd be interested to your response to my points about "normality" and "naturalism" as being universal moral prescriptions.

[Magic 8-Ball]

I myself don't know any athiests. I do know atheists, though.

Why did you have to ruin my lesson?  There were only two posts left.   

[Хahar 🤔]

Fixed.

[The Age Wave]

I was being serious tho

You can't tell if someone is gay unless they either act gay or tell you they are. So how else do you find out?

[Magic 8-Ball]

Fixed.

I was going to give him a little jingle he could sing to help him remember.

*Sigh*
Whatever.

[The Age Wave]

Alcon either you debate me without putting words in my mouth or I put you ignore this is not the way to discuss an issue civlly

[Alcon]

Alcon either you debate me without putting words in my mouth or I put you ignore this is not the way to discuss an issue civlly

I didn't put words in your mouth.  I said that I didn't understand what moral claim you were making, unless you were making that argument.  I never dictated what you were saying, or did anything uncivil, and I'm sorry if I was unclear in a way that made it seem like that's what I was doing.

Again, though, I don't understand your moral claim -- the one that mentioned normality and nature -- or the relevance of being overly public about sexual orientation, and whether gays do that more often than not.  I'm just trying to get at the heart of your claims so I don't end up actually putting words on your mouth.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

To be honest, being an Athiest isn't normal, at least not in America....

That's not normal anywhere.

I think that Sweden has an Athiest population of about 85%.

Eh, no.

The Netherlands is the country with the highest atheist population, and even there I think it is only about 40-45 % that are atheist. 

[opebo]

Today I cut my hand slightly (on the pinky), so I had to ask one of my female colleagues for a band-aid - it was a kind of colourful kids bandaid, and when I taught my class it made me highly aware of how much I was flapping my hands at them.

Alas, however, I'm a straight.

[Hash]

I agree with you my fellow PA Democrat. Homosexuality is not natural and it could possibly be considered a disease. It is not normal. I admit that I feel bad for gay people because of how they are treated but you also have to consider that no one would know they were gay if they didnt act so weird all the time carrying purses and flapping their hands at you.

Why are you a Democrat? Join the Constitution Party already.

[Biden Stans Are Cringelords]

My definition of 'natural' is apparently much different from others. I do not define natural as something that most people have and unnatural as something most don't have. I define natural as how humans are supposed to be. This is nature. Of course you could say since someone is born gay that that is their own personal natural instinct, but that does not mean it is not a biological error.

[Joe Republic]

Even if we run with your assertion that homosexuality is some kind of 'disability', don't you think they still deserve to be treated on the same level as 'normal' people (as if such a thing exists), rather than relegated to second-class citizens?  If not, do you feel the same way about people who we consider disabled in the conventional sense?

[Biden Stans Are Cringelords]

Even if we run with your assertion that homosexuality is some kind of 'disability', don't you think they still deserve to be treated on the same level as 'normal' people (as if such a thing exists), rather than relegated to second-class citizens?  If not, do you feel the same way about people who we consider disabled in the conventional sense?

No, I do not believe they deserve to be treated as second-class. My point was that they should not be grouped in with race, because race is not something that needs to be fixed.

[Joe Republic]

"Fixed?"  Your terminology is worrying.  How exactly do you propose that gay people be "fixed"?

[Biden Stans Are Cringelords]

"Fixed?"  Your terminology is worrying.  How exactly do you propose that gay people be "fixed"?

Gays can probably not be fixed. I have already explained why I feel homosexual is a biological problem, no different than other disabilities. There is no need for me to get into it again. All I am trying to say is that it should not be embraced as 'there is nothing wrong with it'. No, I am not against two adults having the right to sleep with whoever they want, I am absolutely not saying that it is 'immoral' or any other religious nonsense. I am simply saying it is wrong to say it is not a problem.

[Joe Republic]

So if you don't care who other people sleep with, and you don't have any kind of religious issue with it, then how exactly is it a "problem" to you?