How did George HW Bush develop a reputation as a moderate?
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« on: October 19, 2009, 05:07:42 PM »
This pig is disgusting. Why is he so revered by the left and right alike, at least as revered as a Republican can get by the left? Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2009, 05:12:57 PM »
Uh the left doesn't revere him. At all.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2009, 09:43:38 PM »

Neither should the (libertarian) right.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2009, 09:54:39 PM »
Because that's what the media told everyone.

In reality he had no principles or beliefs whatsoever. Just another Skull and Bones elite from the Bush crime family being handed power.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 11:35:28 AM »
Because he waivered at various points in his career between Rockefeller moderatism and Reagan conservativism. Truth be told I'm not sure 41 ever truly resolved that issue in his own heart and mind, shifting with little grace as the political winds blew. I think that's what led to his rep in popular culture as a wimp.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 11:55:02 AM »
Which recent Pres has been more "moderate" (whatever you want that to mean)?  One could make a good argument for Clinton and a bad argument for Obama...and maybe one for Ford, but that's it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 10:40:47 AM »
He raised taxes.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 11:56:17 PM »
I've never considered him a moderate, but I think what so many liberals kept in mind was "He was not his stupid son".
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2009, 03:03:16 PM »
Quote from: Northeast Rep. Doctor Cynic on October 27, 2009, 11:56:17 PM
I've never considered him a moderate, but I think what so many liberals kept in mind was "He was not his stupid son".

Exactly.  He was a mainstream conservative in almost all respects.  But unlike his moron spawn, he was capable of compromising and occasionally looking out for the interests of the country...over against the interests of his peers.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 03:32:02 PM »

To decrease the Reagan deficits.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 05:02:45 PM »



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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 05:29:12 PM »
He was good. For a Republican.
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 12:07:39 AM »

So is it his military interventionism you like, or his tendency to raise taxes?
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 01:10:50 AM »
Terrible for working Americans, just like his spawn.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2009, 03:57:17 PM »
Because his son became President.
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2009, 04:12:04 PM »
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on October 19, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
This pig is disgusting. Why is he so revered by the left and right alike, at least as revered as a Republican can get by the left? Tongue

Because no one could be worse to us than the man he succeeded.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2009, 08:27:26 AM »
« Edited: November 16, 2009, 04:48:15 AM by President Beauregard D'Israeli »
Quote from: Einzige on October 30, 2009, 12:07:39 AM

So is it his military interventionism you like, or his tendency to raise taxes?

Neither.

By the way, before you complain about interventionism, consider the fact you have a Democrat avatar, and they have involved America in all the following wars in the 20th century:

World War I
Banana Wars
Russian Civil War
World War II
Korean War
Vietnam War
Bosnian War
Kosovo War

Compare to Republicans:

Grenada
Panama
Gulf
Somali Civil War
Afghanistan
Iraq
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2009, 11:49:55 AM »
Presumably you would not have involved America in WWII...
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2009, 11:53:48 AM »
Quote from: Τhe Statist Candidate on November 01, 2009, 11:49:55 AM
Presumably you would not have involved America in WWII...

No, I wouldn't. But Japan attacked them and Germany declared war, so they had no choice. All I'm saying is that the Democrats can't pretend to be the party of peace, and the WWII case doesn't work especially when they openly supported Britain from the Destroyers for Bases Agreement onwards.
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2009, 12:03:44 PM »
Quote from: I <3 Israel on November 01, 2009, 11:53:48 AM
Quote from: Τhe Statist Candidate on November 01, 2009, 11:49:55 AM
Presumably you would not have involved America in WWII...

No, I wouldn't. But Japan attacked them and Germany declared war, so they had no choice. All I'm saying is that the Democrats can't pretend to be the party of peace, and the WWII case doesn't work especially when they openly supported Britain from the Destroyers for Bases Agreement onwards.

Lest us not forget that it was the ALMIGHTY INFINITE POWERFUL GOOD FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT who executed the infamous United States Executive Order 9066, ordering hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans into "internment camps". And yet the party that claims to love civil liberties also worships this man, who was perhaps the second most anti-civil liberty president next to Woodrow Wilson in the 20th century.
What the f**k are you guys thinking when you call FDR, an enabler of totatlitarian tactics, the best president of all time?!
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2009, 12:08:21 PM »
Quote from: Mechaman on November 01, 2009, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: I <3 Israel on November 01, 2009, 11:53:48 AM
Quote from: Τhe Statist Candidate on November 01, 2009, 11:49:55 AM
Presumably you would not have involved America in WWII...

No, I wouldn't. But Japan attacked them and Germany declared war, so they had no choice. All I'm saying is that the Democrats can't pretend to be the party of peace, and the WWII case doesn't work especially when they openly supported Britain from the Destroyers for Bases Agreement onwards.

Lest us not forget that it was the ALMIGHTY INFINITE POWERFUL GOOD FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT who executed the infamous United States Executive Order 9066, ordering hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans into "internment camps". And yet the party that claims to love civil liberties also worships this man, who was perhaps the second most anti-civil liberty president next to Woodrow Wilson in the 20th century.
What the f**k are you guys thinking when you call FDR, an enabler of totatlitarian tactics, the best president of all time?!

FDR is somewhat likable, but Wilson was scum and one of the worst and most bigoted Presidents you've ever had.
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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2009, 04:22:36 PM »
Quote from: I <3 Israel on November 01, 2009, 08:27:26 AM
Quote from: Einzige on October 30, 2009, 12:07:39 AM

So is it his military interventionism you like, or his tendency to raise taxes?

Neither.

By the way, before you complain about interventionism, consider the fact you have a Democrat avatar, and they have involved America in all the following wars in the 20th century:

World War I
Banana Wars
Russian Civil War
World War II
Korean War
Vietnam War
Somali Civil War
Bosnian War
Kosovo War

Compare to Republicans:

Grenada
Panama
Gulf
Afghanistan
Iraq

Move Somalia to the Republican column.  Clinton did not send the troops in.
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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2009, 10:32:56 PM »
Quote from: JSojourner on November 02, 2009, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: I <3 Israel on November 01, 2009, 08:27:26 AM
Quote from: Einzige on October 30, 2009, 12:07:39 AM

So is it his military interventionism you like, or his tendency to raise taxes?

Neither.

By the way, before you complain about interventionism, consider the fact you have a Democrat avatar, and they have involved America in all the following wars in the 20th century:

World War I
Banana Wars
Russian Civil War
World War II
Korean War
Vietnam War
Somali Civil War
Bosnian War
Kosovo War

Compare to Republicans:

Grenada
Panama
Gulf
Afghanistan
Iraq

Move Somalia to the Republican column.  Clinton did not send the troops in.

And Vietnam. Ike was the one to first send in "military advisers".
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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2009, 10:36:42 PM »

I didn't say they worked. The deficits no doubt would've been worse without the tax hikes however.
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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2009, 10:39:45 PM »
Quote from: Governor Vepres on November 02, 2009, 10:36:42 PM

I didn't say they worked. The deficits no doubt would've been worse without the tax hikes however.

Or he could have cut taxes and spending commensurately. That's what Clinton did, and it worked. 
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