Manifest Destiny=Lebensraum?

[SPC]

I notice that the American idea of manifest destiny seems to be quite similar to the German idea of lebensraum. Both were based on ideas of expanding their races at the expense of the native populations. Does anyone else agree with me?

[GMantis]

I notice that the American idea of manifest destiny seems to be quite similar to the German idea of lebenstraum. Both were based on ideas of expanding their races at the expense of the native populations. Does anyone else agree with me?

No, they have nothing to do with each other. The concept of Manifest Destiny existed unlike the concept of lebenstraum. Unless you think the Nazis spent a lot of time dreaming about their lives...

[Middle-aged Europe]

It's Lebensraum, not Lebenstraum.


Raum = space, area

Traum = dream


Although I'm sure that the Nazis also had a dream, it's pretty certain that it was quite the opposite of MLK's.

[Хahar 🤔]

Imperialism has many disguises, but it is always the same.

[CatoMinor]

similar, alot of Nazi idea's came from the U.S. like progressive era eugenics, Im sure at some point they studied our manifest destiny period while planning their expansion.

[Stranger in a strange land]

similar, alot of Nazi idea's came from the U.S. like progressive era eugenics, Im sure at some point they studied our manifest destiny period while planning their expansion.

cite? Currents in German philosophy were far more important to the development of Nazi ideology, and the idea of the "Drang Nach Osten" long predates Manifest Destiny, or even the United States for that matter.

[The Mikado]

similar, alot of Nazi idea's came from the U.S. like progressive era eugenics, Im sure at some point they studied our manifest destiny period while planning their expansion.

Eh...

Frederick the Great was saying that the Poles were like Iroquois and should be treated as such before the United States even existed.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

similar, alot of Nazi idea's came from the U.S. like progressive era eugenics, Im sure at some point they studied our manifest destiny period while planning their expansion.

cite? Currents in German philosophy were far more important to the development of Nazi ideology, and the idea of the "Drang Nach Osten" long predates Manifest Destiny, or even the United States for that matter.

Oh no, not this again.

Anyway it is not like America didn't develop it's own brand of intellectual thought to justify manifest destiny.

[Jacobtm]

We got away with it is all.

[Stranger in a strange land]

similar, alot of Nazi idea's came from the U.S. like progressive era eugenics, Im sure at some point they studied our manifest destiny period while planning their expansion.

cite? Currents in German philosophy were far more important to the development of Nazi ideology, and the idea of the "Drang Nach Osten" long predates Manifest Destiny, or even the United States for that matter.

Oh no, not this again.

Anyway it is not like America didn't develop it's own brand of intellectual thought to justify manifest destiny.

there are clearly parallels between the two, but to say that Lebensraum derived from Manifest Destiny specifically is a bit of a stretch.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

similar, alot of Nazi idea's came from the U.S. like progressive era eugenics, Im sure at some point they studied our manifest destiny period while planning their expansion.

cite? Currents in German philosophy were far more important to the development of Nazi ideology, and the idea of the "Drang Nach Osten" long predates Manifest Destiny, or even the United States for that matter.

Oh no, not this again.

Anyway it is not like America didn't develop it's own brand of intellectual thought to justify manifest destiny.

there are clearly parallels between the two, but to say that Lebensraum derived from Manifest Destiny specifically is a bit of a stretch.

Errr, was I saying that?