Poll For The Poll ?, Recent AP Poll, does it matter?

[SayNoToNader.com]

By now everyone has seen the recent AP Poll, Bush at 46%, Kerry at 45%, Nader at 6%.

The question I have is, does it matter? Especially considering they only polled 771 voters.

Please take a minute to take the Poll of the Poll at:
http://www.saynotonader.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15

Thanks,

[ncjake]

No polls matter at this point. We just came off of a high profile primary season. After the conventions the polls will matter

[opebo]

Nader makes a difference with Kerry for the same reason he made a difference with Gore - people just don't like them!  Kerry is an unappealing, elitist candidate who was chosen for 'electability - to get Bush - not because anyone likes him.  Nader won't get 6% but I wouldn't be surprised by 2%.
 

[California Dreamer]

it is rather telling that the only people who seem pleased by Nader's run are Republicans..

anyway I would like to see polltakers ask for Bush v Kerry as well as Bush v Kerry v Nader. This would be a good way to gauge the Nader factor, and is more accurate for states that Nader isnt on the ballot

[angus]

Sammy.  very nice.  did I tell you that on my return flight from SJ to Newark after a relaxing ten-day Thanksgiving holiday in PR last fall I sat next to the Son of Roberte Clemente?  (well, geekgirl was in the middle, so almost next to him)  Anyway, he had a nice multimillion dollar plan drawn up for a sports complex for underpriveliged youth (Clemente Center or something) he was taking to NYC to show some investors.  And yes, Clemente's son is a Republican!  And he doesn't eat little children.  He helps them.

I'd say from the above it is obvious that Kerryites are just as willing as the gore people were to use their personal funds to muck around in the minds of the nader folks.  This is absolutely fuçking disgusting.  On the other hand, you clearly put quite an effort into the post.  I have had phone conversations with of a couple of my pseudosocialist friends who voted for Nader (mostly in Somerville, MA) last time and they're softer this year.  Time will tell.

On a more serious note:  This had most of the state of Michigan laughing for 2 days and a very embarrassed female news anchor who will, in the future, likely think before she speaks...a true story...a female news anchor who, the day after it was supposed to have snowed and didn't, turned to the weatherman and asked: "So Bob, where's that 8 inches you promised me last night?" Not only did HE have to leave the set, but half the crew did too they were laughing so hard!

ONLY ONE POLL MATTERS.  YOU WILL KNOW SOON ENOUGH.

[ncjake]

Sammy.  very nice.  did I tell you that on my return flight from SJ to Newark after a relaxing ten-day Thanksgiving holiday in PR last fall I sat next to the Son of Roberte Clemente?  (well, geekgirl was in the middle, so almost next to him)  Anyway, he had a nice multimillion dollar plan drawn up for a sports complex for underpriveliged youth (Clemente Center or something) he was taking to NYC to show some investors.  And yes, Clemente's son is a Republican!  And he doesn't eat little children.  He helps them.

I'd say from the above it is obvious that Kerryites are just as willing as the gore people were to use their personal funds to muck around in the minds of the nader folks.  This is absolutely fuçking disgusting.  On the other hand, you clearly put quite an effort into the post.  I have had phone conversations with of a couple of my pseudosocialist friends who voted for Nader (mostly in Somerville, MA) last time and they're softer this year.  Time will tell.

On a more serious note:  This had most of the state of Michigan laughing for 2 days and a very embarrassed female news anchor who will, in the future, likely think before she speaks...a true story...a female news anchor who, the day after it was supposed to have snowed and didn't, turned to the weatherman and asked: "So Bob, where's that 8 inches you promised me last night?" Not only did HE have to leave the set, but half the crew did too they were laughing so hard!

ONLY ONE POLL MATTERS.  YOU WILL KNOW SOON ENOUGH.

That weatherman business was hilarious! Roberto Clemente's son? wow. I met Alex Rodriguez when he was plaing in Seattle. My dad and I were at a Jack-in-the-Box when we saw him. He was very nice. Where in Puerto Rico did you go? My uncle lives in Ceiba(Naval Base).

[angus]

Everywhere!  We spent a few days each in SJ, Vieques, Ponce, and La Parguera.  Also hiked in the U.S. forestry service's only tropical rainforest.  We also toured the excellent science facilities at UPR-Mayagüez, after some advice from a kind Puerto Rican I went scubadiving with in the reefs south of Lajas.  Puertoriqueños are very passionate about their politics.  Their love/hate with Spain and with the USA is fascinating.  ¡orgulloso, pero sincero! as are most latinoamericanos I have had the pleasure of discussing politics with.  I'd sure like to hear your uncle's views about Sila Calderón.  I heard her give a moving speech about the stituation on vieques, but that's a little off-topic.  Sorry for the rant.

[StevenNick]

By now everyone has seen the recent AP Poll, Bush at 46%, Kerry at 45%, Nader at 6%.

The question I have is, does it matter? Especially considering they only polled 771 voters.

Please take a minute to take the Poll of the Poll at:
http://www.saynotonader.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15

Thanks,

And plus it's just so early in the campaign.  I think the only thing this poll shows is that the candidates are starting the general election on fairly equal footing as far as support is concerned.  I don't think this poll means anything for November.

[WalterMitty]

i dont take seriously any poll that has nader as high as 6%,  that is absurd.

too bad they didnt poll lenora fulani or harry browne.

[zachman]

Are Republicans signing Nader's petitions?

[ncjake]

Everywhere!  We spent a few days each in SJ, Vieques, Ponce, and La Parguera.  Also hiked in the U.S. forestry service's only tropical rainforest.  We also toured the excellent science facilities at UPR-Mayagüez, after some advice from a kind Puerto Rican I went scubadiving with in the reefs south of Lajas.  Puertoriqueños are very passionate about their politics.  Their love/hate with Spain and with the USA is fascinating.  ¡orgulloso, pero sincero! as are most latinoamericanos I have had the pleasure of discussing politics with.  I'd sure like to hear your uncle's views about Sila Calderón.  I heard her give a moving speech about the stituation on vieques, but that's a little off-topic.  Sorry for the rant.

Yeah, Puerto Rico is a nice place. My uncle has to leave though because they are shutting down the naval base. It's too bad, I really enjoyed it there. Its like Mexico with a decent economy and people that speak English. I cant wait to go to Cuba!

[angus]

Are Republicans signing Nader's petitions?

I got 56 signatures on my copy so far.  most of them are living.  all of them are republicans.

ncjake, yeah puertoriquenos speak english.  it's their spanish that's tough.  trying to understand a pr person speak spanish is like trying to listen to a jamaican speak english.  word.  (and their steering wheels are on the wrong side, and the shifter and clutch and everything, very disorienting to drive.  ?disoriented?  yea man.  no problem)

[angus]

I meant on the wrong side in JWI, not PR  
yeah me encanta puerto rico.  no conozco Cuba.

[CollectiveInterest]

Well, if the Dems don't like Nader running they could co-opt his issues, stop antagonizing him, nominate someone acceptable--what was wrong with Howard Dean?--or implement election reform.

Seeing as how the Dems aren't willing to reach out to Nader or his supporters, Dems shouldn't be surprised when Nader supporters don't toe the line.

Bush sucks, but he wouldn't suck near as bad if Democrats didn't enable him to suck in a number of ways.