Abolish Regional Senate Seats

[Marokai Backbeat]

That's the irony of this whole debate - the people decrying strategic registrations and proposing the only solution is the abolition of regional senate seats are actually guilty of this themselves, having registered in regions other than where they actually live. They'd have much more credibility if they weren't doing what they complain about others doing.

There's nothing wrong with registering in a state where you don't actually live.

There is something wrong with manipulating the make-up of the electorate through systematic strategic registration.  Whoever our "mystery man" is has done a very bad job of covering their tracks.

that bgwah... why did he have nclib sign up to vote for benconstine?

I don't think Bgwah is that big of a fan of Ben to actually register voters for him.

[Sbane]

That's the irony of this whole debate - the people decrying strategic registrations and proposing the only solution is the abolition of regional senate seats are actually guilty of this themselves, having registered in regions other than where they actually live. They'd have much more credibility if they weren't doing what they complain about others doing.

There's nothing wrong with registering in a state where you don't actually live.

There is something wrong with manipulating the make-up of the electorate through systematic strategic registration.  Whoever our "mystery man" is has done a very bad job of covering their tracks.

that bgwah... why did he have nclib sign up to vote for benconstine?

Why would bgwah sign up voters to vote for another party?

[Alexander Hamilton]

That's the irony of this whole debate - the people decrying strategic registrations and proposing the only solution is the abolition of regional senate seats are actually guilty of this themselves, having registered in regions other than where they actually live. They'd have much more credibility if they weren't doing what they complain about others doing.

There's nothing wrong with registering in a state where you don't actually live.

There is something wrong with manipulating the make-up of the electorate through systematic strategic registration.  Whoever our "mystery man" is has done a very bad job of covering their tracks.

that bgwah... why did he have nclib sign up to vote for benconstine?

Why would bgwah sign up voters to vote for another party?

To hurt the PCs.

[Sewer]

[Sbane]

That's the irony of this whole debate - the people decrying strategic registrations and proposing the only solution is the abolition of regional senate seats are actually guilty of this themselves, having registered in regions other than where they actually live. They'd have much more credibility if they weren't doing what they complain about others doing.

There's nothing wrong with registering in a state where you don't actually live.

There is something wrong with manipulating the make-up of the electorate through systematic strategic registration.  Whoever our "mystery man" is has done a very bad job of covering their tracks.

that bgwah... why did he have nclib sign up to vote for benconstine?

Why would bgwah sign up voters to vote for another party?

To hurt the PCs.

I highly doubt Ben will be voting much different than Tmth in the senate except for being more protectionist perhaps.

[Alexander Hamilton]

That's the irony of this whole debate - the people decrying strategic registrations and proposing the only solution is the abolition of regional senate seats are actually guilty of this themselves, having registered in regions other than where they actually live. They'd have much more credibility if they weren't doing what they complain about others doing.

There's nothing wrong with registering in a state where you don't actually live.

There is something wrong with manipulating the make-up of the electorate through systematic strategic registration.  Whoever our "mystery man" is has done a very bad job of covering their tracks.

that bgwah... why did he have nclib sign up to vote for benconstine?

Why would bgwah sign up voters to vote for another party?

To hurt the PCs.

I highly doubt Ben will be voting much different than Tmth in the senate except for being more protectionist perhaps.

Ben is voting for Lief over his own party.

[Sbane]

That's the irony of this whole debate - the people decrying strategic registrations and proposing the only solution is the abolition of regional senate seats are actually guilty of this themselves, having registered in regions other than where they actually live. They'd have much more credibility if they weren't doing what they complain about others doing.

There's nothing wrong with registering in a state where you don't actually live.

There is something wrong with manipulating the make-up of the electorate through systematic strategic registration.  Whoever our "mystery man" is has done a very bad job of covering their tracks.

that bgwah... why did he have nclib sign up to vote for benconstine?

Why would bgwah sign up voters to vote for another party?

To hurt the PCs.

I highly doubt Ben will be voting much different than Tmth in the senate except for being more protectionist perhaps.

Ben is voting for Lief over his own party.

So?

[Alexander Hamilton]

That's the irony of this whole debate - the people decrying strategic registrations and proposing the only solution is the abolition of regional senate seats are actually guilty of this themselves, having registered in regions other than where they actually live. They'd have much more credibility if they weren't doing what they complain about others doing.

There's nothing wrong with registering in a state where you don't actually live.

There is something wrong with manipulating the make-up of the electorate through systematic strategic registration.  Whoever our "mystery man" is has done a very bad job of covering their tracks.

that bgwah... why did he have nclib sign up to vote for benconstine?

Why would bgwah sign up voters to vote for another party?

To hurt the PCs.

I highly doubt Ben will be voting much different than Tmth in the senate except for being more protectionist perhaps.

Ben is voting for Lief over his own party.

So?

That's all I got. I'm not a mind reader and I don't really care what they do.

[Alexander Hamilton]

x JOSE

[Alexander Hamilton]

February.

Welcome to the party!

Thanks.

Who are we running?

Also Max is running for Governor of the Pacific and I'm running for Lt. Governor. You should have moved to the pacific.

Though I wonder... Isn't this basically a desire for strategic registration on Marokai's behalf? Sure looks like it. So bourgeoisie.

[Marokai Backbeat]

February.

Welcome to the party!

Thanks.

Who are we running?

Also Max is running for Governor of the Pacific and I'm running for Lt. Governor. You should have moved to the pacific.

Though I wonder... Isn't this basically a desire for strategic registration on Marokai's behalf? Sure looks like it. So bourgeoisie.

Remember when I called you a chameleon? Yeah, pretty apt now, if it wasn't before.

[Antonio the Sixth]

x JOSE

[Alexander Hamilton]

February.

Welcome to the party!

Thanks.

Who are we running?

Also Max is running for Governor of the Pacific and I'm running for Lt. Governor. You should have moved to the pacific.

Though I wonder... Isn't this basically a desire for strategic registration on Marokai's behalf? Sure looks like it. So bourgeoisie.

Remember when I called you a chameleon? Yeah, pretty apt now, if it wasn't before.

No. This isn't actual legislative policy, this is game play and it only benefits a group that doesn't deserve it at all.

[Devilman88]

Why not reduce the regions to three? And have 7 at-large senate seats, split in two election cycle. Cycle A: would elected three Senators every three months starting with January(Jan, April, July, Oct). Cycle B: would elected four Senators every three months starting with February(Feb, May, August, Nov). Then you have your Regional Senate Seats every three months starting with March(March, June, Sept, Dec). Then your President race would be every four months starting with January(Jan, May, September)

So it would look like this:

Jan: President Race, Class A Senate Seat elections
Feb: Class B Senate Seat elections
March: Regional Senate Seat races
April: Class A Senate Seat elections
May: President Race, Class B Senate seat elections
June: Regional Senate seat races
July: Class A Senate Seat elections
Aug: Class B Senate Seat elections
Sept: President Race, Regional Senate Seat races
Oct: Class A Senate Seat elections
Nov: Class B Senate Seat elections
Dec: Regional Senate Seat races.

[Purple State]

Why not reduce the regions to three? And have 7 at-large senate seats, split in two election cycle. Cycle A: would elected three Senators every three months starting with January(Jan, April, July, Oct). Cycle B: would elected four Senators every three months starting with February(Feb, May, August, Nov). Then you have your Regional Senate Seats every three months starting with March(March, June, Sept, Dec). Then your President race would be every four months starting with January(Jan, May, September)

So it would look like this:

Jan: President Race, Class A Senate Seat elections
Feb: Class B Senate Seat elections
March: Regional Senate Seat races
April: Class A Senate Seat elections
May: President Race, Class B Senate seat elections
June: Regional Senate seat races
July: Class A Senate Seat elections
Aug: Class B Senate Seat elections
Sept: President Race, Regional Senate Seat races
Oct: Class A Senate Seat elections
Nov: Class B Senate Seat elections
Dec: Regional Senate Seat races.

Not this "reduce the regions" stuff again. We can hardly agree on minor changes, not to mention overhauling the region system. Just think, for a moment, how much work that would entail.

[Devilman88]

Why not reduce the regions to three? And have 7 at-large senate seats, split in two election cycle. Cycle A: would elected three Senators every three months starting with January(Jan, April, July, Oct). Cycle B: would elected four Senators every three months starting with February(Feb, May, August, Nov). Then you have your Regional Senate Seats every three months starting with March(March, June, Sept, Dec). Then your President race would be every four months starting with January(Jan, May, September)

So it would look like this:

Jan: President Race, Class A Senate Seat elections
Feb: Class B Senate Seat elections
March: Regional Senate Seat races
April: Class A Senate Seat elections
May: President Race, Class B Senate seat elections
June: Regional Senate seat races
July: Class A Senate Seat elections
Aug: Class B Senate Seat elections
Sept: President Race, Regional Senate Seat races
Oct: Class A Senate Seat elections
Nov: Class B Senate Seat elections
Dec: Regional Senate Seat races.

A map like this would be good:




Purple Region:
Total members: 67 people

Party Percentage:
PCP: 33% (22)
JCP: 27% (18)
DA: 16% (11)
LNF: 9% (6)
Other: 15% (10)

Yellow Region
Total Members: 55 people

Party Percentage:
PCP: 27% (15)
JCP: 38% (21)
DA: 9% (5)
LNF: 7 (4)
Other: 18% (10)

Blue Region
Total Members: 45 people

Party Percentage:
PCP: 31% (14)
JCP: 33% (15)
DA: 2% (1)
LNF: 7% (3)
Other: 27% (12)

[Purple State]

I don't question the ability to actually crunch the numbers, but good luck convincing any of the regions to go along with it. It isn't politically viable, much less so than the other proposals on the table.

Don't get me wrong, I don't necessarily support or oppose this. It just seems like an insurmountable atmosphere at the moment.

[Devilman88]

I don't question the ability to actually crunch the numbers, but good luck convincing any of the regions to go along with it. It isn't politically viable, much less so than the other proposals on the table.

Don't get me wrong, I don't necessarily support or oppose this. It just seems like an insurmountable atmosphere at the moment.

I understand, I was just bored

But, this would make the Regional elections more of a toss-up and fun, IMO

[Purple State]

I don't question the ability to actually crunch the numbers, but good luck convincing any of the regions to go along with it. It isn't politically viable, much less so than the other proposals on the table.

Don't get me wrong, I don't necessarily support or oppose this. It just seems like an insurmountable atmosphere at the moment.

I understand, I was just bored

But, this would make the Regional elections more of a toss-up and fun, IMO

Likely. Of course, then there is the question how you rebalance At-Large and Regional Senate seats.

[Devilman88]

I don't question the ability to actually crunch the numbers, but good luck convincing any of the regions to go along with it. It isn't politically viable, much less so than the other proposals on the table.

Don't get me wrong, I don't necessarily support or oppose this. It just seems like an insurmountable atmosphere at the moment.

I understand, I was just bored

But, this would make the Regional elections more of a toss-up and fun, IMO

Likely. Of course, then there is the question how you rebalance At-Large and Regional Senate seats.

Or you could elected two per region and 4 at-large.  This is all just talk, because things will never change and regions will stay boring as heck, because some don't want to change the regions.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I like Dan/Josh's proposal. It's creative. Maybe could use some tweaking but it seems pretty well thought out. His numbers are off, though, as he is including many inactive members that have yet to be deregistered but clearly won't be voting. Only if the purple region kept the Northeast Government and the Yellow Region kept the Mideast, of course.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Why not reduce the regions to three? And have 7 at-large senate seats, split in two election cycle. Cycle A: would elected three Senators every three months starting with January(Jan, April, July, Oct). Cycle B: would elected four Senators every three months starting with February(Feb, May, August, Nov). Then you have your Regional Senate Seats every three months starting with March(March, June, Sept, Dec). Then your President race would be every four months starting with January(Jan, May, September)

So it would look like this:

Jan: President Race, Class A Senate Seat elections
Feb: Class B Senate Seat elections
March: Regional Senate Seat races
April: Class A Senate Seat elections
May: President Race, Class B Senate seat elections
June: Regional Senate seat races
July: Class A Senate Seat elections
Aug: Class B Senate Seat elections
Sept: President Race, Regional Senate Seat races
Oct: Class A Senate Seat elections
Nov: Class B Senate Seat elections
Dec: Regional Senate Seat races.

No thanks.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Why not reduce the regions to three? And have 7 at-large senate seats, split in two election cycle. Cycle A: would elected three Senators every three months starting with January(Jan, April, July, Oct). Cycle B: would elected four Senators every three months starting with February(Feb, May, August, Nov). Then you have your Regional Senate Seats every three months starting with March(March, June, Sept, Dec). Then your President race would be every four months starting with January(Jan, May, September)

So it would look like this:

Jan: President Race, Class A Senate Seat elections
Feb: Class B Senate Seat elections
March: Regional Senate Seat races
April: Class A Senate Seat elections
May: President Race, Class B Senate seat elections
June: Regional Senate seat races
July: Class A Senate Seat elections
Aug: Class B Senate Seat elections
Sept: President Race, Regional Senate Seat races
Oct: Class A Senate Seat elections
Nov: Class B Senate Seat elections
Dec: Regional Senate Seat races.

No thanks.

You can't just say that. Give a reason. I think there is no reason to change the Presidential election months when we could easily switch the Senate seats.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Why not reduce the regions to three? And have 7 at-large senate seats, split in two election cycle. Cycle A: would elected three Senators every three months starting with January(Jan, April, July, Oct). Cycle B: would elected four Senators every three months starting with February(Feb, May, August, Nov). Then you have your Regional Senate Seats every three months starting with March(March, June, Sept, Dec). Then your President race would be every four months starting with January(Jan, May, September)

So it would look like this:

Jan: President Race, Class A Senate Seat elections
Feb: Class B Senate Seat elections
March: Regional Senate Seat races
April: Class A Senate Seat elections
May: President Race, Class B Senate seat elections
June: Regional Senate seat races
July: Class A Senate Seat elections
Aug: Class B Senate Seat elections
Sept: President Race, Regional Senate Seat races
Oct: Class A Senate Seat elections
Nov: Class B Senate Seat elections
Dec: Regional Senate Seat races.

No thanks.

You can't just say that. Give a reason. I think there is no reason to change the Presidential election months when we could easily switch the Senate seats.

I oppose any plan to modify the regions.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I'm against an idea of abolition of regional seats