Do any Democrats here wish that Obama didnt win in 2008?
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« on: October 04, 2009, 12:11:28 AM »

I generally lean Democratic and I am very sorry that Obama was ever elected President.  I dont feel his short term victory in 2008 was anywhere near the long term pain it is going to cost the Democratic party. 

This is a weak, weak President in one of the worst economic situations in history.  I would have thought that quite a few Democrats would have known this would happen in 2008 and pulled the lever for McCain(as I did) in order to stop the Democrats from being blamed for these next disastrous few years. 

If Obama can get a healthcare bill through, his election will have at least been partially worth it my view, but if not, he deserves to go down as a disaster that never should have happened.

What do other Democrats here think?
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2009, 12:29:03 AM »

No.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2009, 01:37:08 AM »

I just wish Biden could have won the primaries Cry
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2009, 02:39:17 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 05:37:38 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2009, 05:57:16 AM »

I just wish Biden could have won the primaries Cry

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2009, 07:21:40 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 09:31:47 AM »

I just wish Biden Mark Warner could have won the primaries Cry
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2009, 09:37:20 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2009, 09:54:10 AM »

I generally lean Democratic and I am very sorry that Obama was ever elected President.  I dont feel his short term victory in 2008 was anywhere near the long term pain it is going to cost the Democratic party. 

This is a weak, weak President in one of the worst economic situations in history.  I would have thought that quite a few Democrats would have known this would happen in 2008 and pulled the lever for McCain(as I did) in order to stop the Democrats from being blamed for these next disastrous few years. 

If Obama can get a healthcare bill through, his election will have at least been partially worth it my view, but if not, he deserves to go down as a disaster that never should have happened.

What do other Democrats here think?

I can give one big reason why very few Democrats share your view: Sonia Sotomayor.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2009, 10:16:32 AM »

I generally lean Democratic and I am very sorry that Obama was ever elected President.  I dont feel his short term victory in 2008 was anywhere near the long term pain it is going to cost the Democratic party. 

No, esp. not after following eight years of Bush. Though I'll admit that during the election campaign I thought that the anti-GOP sentiment was stronger than the pro-Obama sentiment, and was concerned about Dems/Obama's performances in 2010/2012.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2009, 11:45:33 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2009, 11:47:10 AM »

I can give one big reason why very few Democrats share your view: Sonia Sotomayor.

If McCain had won, Souter would not have retired.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2009, 01:20:29 PM »

I can give one big reason why very few Democrats share your view: Sonia Sotomayor.

If McCain had won, Souter would not have retired.

Not to be morbid but...

Stevens and Ginsburg aren't getting any younger.
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 12:45:52 PM »


Biden is my favorite politician.  Ask the people who were here during the primaries and you will know all about you Biden man crush.  Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2009, 08:58:55 PM »

Biden probably would have been a better President, HW is right. But obviously Obama is far superior to four more years of Bush (i.e. McCain).
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 11:15:09 PM »

Biden probably would have been a better President, HW is right. But obviously Obama is far superior to four more years of Bush (i.e. McCain).

In all honesty, save the stimulus, I can't really see a McCain Presidency being much different from Obama's. He had to leave Iraq because Bush signed that treaty to get out by 2011, and there would be a fight over health care as Democrats would try to push it anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2009, 11:24:23 PM »

Joe Biden = Honest, admirable man.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2009, 11:31:12 PM »

Biden probably would have been a better President, HW is right. But obviously Obama is far superior to four more years of Bush (i.e. McCain).

In all honesty, save the stimulus, I can't really see a McCain Presidency being much different from Obama's. He had to leave Iraq because Bush signed that treaty to get out by 2011, and there would be a fight over health care as Democrats would try to push it anyway.

Without the stimulus things would be much, much worse. And any meaningful health care reform wouldn't have passed with a Republican president. Maybe some random tax credits and other useless garbage.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2009, 11:55:56 PM »

McCain wouldn't be any different from Obama, except on foreign policy. Hence, I supported Obama.
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2009, 07:01:32 AM »

Biden probably would have been a better President, HW is right. But obviously Obama is far superior to four more years of Bush (i.e. McCain).

In all honesty, save the stimulus, I can't really see a McCain Presidency being much different from Obama's. He had to leave Iraq because Bush signed that treaty to get out by 2011, and there would be a fight over health care as Democrats would try to push it anyway.

Without the stimulus things would be much, much worse. And any meaningful health care reform wouldn't have passed with a Republican president. Maybe some random tax credits and other useless garbage.

Apparently it doesn't pass with a Democrat president either so don't be a hack, vlad.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 11:55:46 AM »

Biden probably would have been a better President, HW is right. But obviously Obama is far superior to four more years of Bush (i.e. McCain).

In all honesty, save the stimulus, I can't really see a McCain Presidency being much different from Obama's. He had to leave Iraq because Bush signed that treaty to get out by 2011, and there would be a fight over health care as Democrats would try to push it anyway.

Without the stimulus things would be much, much worse. And any meaningful health care reform wouldn't have passed with a Republican president. Maybe some random tax credits and other useless garbage.

Apparently it doesn't pass with a Democrat president either so don't be a hack, vlad.

Whos Vlad?
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 12:27:40 PM »

No, but i would have liked Dennis Kucinich to be the nominee.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2009, 01:24:05 PM »

No, but i would have liked Dennis Kucinich to be the nominee.

Just a pity he wouldn't win though.
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2009, 10:33:10 PM »

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