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Tetro Kornbluth
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« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2009, 07:33:03 AM »

Donegal South West also goes NO:

Turnout: 31544 (52.3%)
YES: (49.7%)
NO: (50.3%)
Swing: 13.1% to YES.

While Tipperary North also goes YES:

Turnout: 33379 (59.6%)
YES: (70.4%)
NO: (29.6%)
Swing: 20.6% to YES


Beating Referendum Ireland into a cocked hat (3/43 they say).

Theory: Constituencies closer to the border (and influenced by Ulster politics) get British TV signals and have seen the rise of UKIP in the Euros, making them swing less than purely Eire constituencies. Discuss

No. UKIP actually tried to campaign here... which as you see went down very well. Donegal's vote is part traditional alienation from central authority (the only town of significance near them is of course across the border - guess who gets neglected or seems to get neglected in national planning initatives?), Influence of Sinn Fein and probably EU fisheries policies (which certainly has had a major negative impact there) as well as what random local factors of which I'm not fully aware.

I'm going by the RTE website btw.
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« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2009, 07:33:19 AM »

Second (and likely the last No)...
Donegal South West
Votes%Lisbon I
Yes15,62350%37%
No15,79450%63%


Tipperary North
Votes%Lisbon I
Yes25,76870%50%
No10,84630%50%


Waterford
Votes%Lisbon I
Yes30,74469%46%
No14,11631%54%

   
National Results
6/43 Constituencies Declared
(Tipperary S, Kildare N, Donegal NE, Donegal SW, Tipperary N, Waterford)
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Yes141,015
No76,246
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« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2009, 07:34:25 AM »

Not even Dublin South West for the NO? Has the working-class switched to the YES with the economic crisis?
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« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2009, 07:37:41 AM »

National Tally after 8 results
YES 198,490 (64.86%)
NO 107,544 (35.14%)
YES lead of 90,946 (29.72%)
Swing to YES: 14.86%

Constituency Wins
YES: Cork South Central, Dublin Mid West, Kildare North, Tipperary North, Tipperary South, Waterford
NO: Donegal North East, Donegal South West

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« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2009, 07:40:48 AM »

Theory: Constituencies closer to the border (and influenced by Ulster politics) get British TV signals and have seen the rise of UKIP in the Euros, making them swing less than purely Eire constituencies. Discuss

Yes, I'm going to agree with Gully and call shenanigans on that theory.

Access to British media is obviously greater in border areas, but both British print and broadcast media are widely available. Even with that I doubt most people know anything much about UKIP at all. It has been interesting this time though that the British tabloid press have completely changed their tune . After following the euro-skeptic line from London on Lisbon I, they have at least become fairly neutral this time, if not in favour. Not that I think the change of attitude really affected anything much one way or the other.
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« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2009, 07:43:54 AM »

Not even Dublin South West for the NO? Has the working-class switched to the YES with the economic crisis?

It's still clear that there's a class divide on this issue. But there appears to be a general swing to Yes in both working and middle class areas.
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« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2009, 07:51:47 AM »

National Tally after 12 results
YES 295,497 (64.64%)
NO 161,634 (35.36%)
YES lead of 133,863 (29.28%)
Swing to YES: 14.64%

Constituency Wins
YES: Cavan Monaghan, Cork South Central, Dublin Mid West, Dublin West, Kerry North, Kildare North, Sligo Leitrim North, Tipperary North, Tipperary South, Waterford
NO: Donegal North East, Donegal South West
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« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2009, 07:51:52 AM »

From the Rte Website:
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« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2009, 07:53:06 AM »
« Edited: October 03, 2009, 07:55:32 AM by Ghyl Tarvoke »

Not even Dublin South West for the NO? Has the working-class switched to the YES with the economic crisis?

I heard earlier that the result in Cork North Central will be close, perhaps the only NO in Munster, so there is certainly still a divide... just the rural areas voted in such a way to make it totally irrelevant.

EDIT: So much for that. But it was closer than the other Munster areas.
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« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2009, 07:55:00 AM »

Results coming in thick and fast...
Referendum Returning Officer Online Results Summary
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« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2009, 08:24:04 AM »

On a party political note - when the dust settles on this with Donegal standing alone against Lisbon, it will make a very sorry picture for our embattled Tánaiste Mary Coughlan (FF-Donegal SW).
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« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2009, 08:31:00 AM »

Update
23/43 Declarations
Votes: 624,724-297,053
Percentages: 68-32

In general swings in the order of 20-25% to Yes.

Biggest Yes votes so far:
Dublin South: 81.67%
Dún Laoighaire: 81.17%
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« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2009, 09:50:11 AM »

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« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2009, 09:53:21 AM »

Update
40/43 Constituencies Declared
Yes: 1,117,207
No: 551,071

67%-33%

Constituencies awaited: Carlow-Kilkenny; Dublin NC; Longford-Westmeath.
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« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2009, 10:28:46 AM »

Update
42/43 Constituencies Declared
Yes: 1,171,769
No: 576,851

67%-33%

Constituency awaited: Carlow-Kilkenny - which was the closest constituency last time, won by the Yes side by 4 votes.
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« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2009, 10:38:56 AM »
« Edited: October 03, 2009, 10:46:01 AM by Harry Hayfield »

Ireland Referendum on the Lisbon Treaty 2009 Result
Yes, I agree that the Irish nation should ratify the Lisbon Treaty of 2005 1,214,718 (67.14%)
No, I do not agre that the Irish nation should ratify the Lisbon Treaty of 2005 594,606 (32.86%)
Majority in favour of ratification 620,112 (34.27%)

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« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2009, 12:10:05 PM »

Give Donegal back to the Donegalese! Cheesy
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« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2009, 12:15:39 PM »

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« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2009, 02:03:55 PM »


Is this the last time anyone will care about what Ganley says?
Fingers crossed...

We said that in June, didn't we?

Interesting-looking map. Donegal is in Ulster, correct?
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« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2009, 02:09:31 PM »


Is this the last time anyone will care about what Ganley says?
Fingers crossed...

Remind me, Declan, how many seats did you win in June?
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« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2009, 02:35:48 PM »

Good job Ireland.
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« Reply #71 on: October 03, 2009, 02:44:56 PM »


Is this the last time anyone will care about what Ganley says?
Fingers crossed...

We said that in June, didn't we?

Interesting-looking map. Donegal is in Ulster, correct?
Aye. So are Cavan and Monahan.
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« Reply #72 on: October 03, 2009, 03:05:19 PM »


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« Reply #73 on: October 03, 2009, 03:08:37 PM »


Fail country. The Lisbon treaty is like a Treaty of Versailles, except instead of just Germany, it's unjust to ALL of Europe.
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« Reply #74 on: October 03, 2009, 03:36:36 PM »


Fail country. The Lisbon treaty is like a Treaty of Versailles, except instead of just Germany, it's unjust to ALL of Europe.

And you win the worthless hyperbole award for this week.
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