Bow Chicka Bow Wow Bill (Debating)

[MaxQue]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

Okay, we force nobody to sin. I think than parents should enforce rules against sin, not government.

[Sbane]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

Since when are concerned about just physical health. What about Mental and emotional health as well. Surely these are affected by someone having sex so early.

Finally my statement was in response to the general response from Snowguy, yourself and others.
"I am sure you didn't look at porn at 14." As if its unnaccetable to not look at it.

Sbane, you let me be the judge of when I should keep quiet. I will never keep quiet when I know that you are wrong and I am right. So why don't you quit with you f**king elitist condescending attitude cause I will not take that from anybody. You don't have sole custody of the right ideas just because you are from California. You are wrong here and I know so, you have no right to tell me to keep quiet, none at all.

[MaxQue]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

Since when are concerned about just physical health. What about Mental and emotional health as well. Surely these are affected by someone having sex so early.

They are affected positively. Before, at 14, you were already married and you were already trying to have kids. I don't think than brain grow slowed down since then.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Yankee, now you are just being ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with having sex at age 14. I don't have any emotional problems or anything like that. There is no proof of these claims.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yankee, now you are just being ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with having sex at age 14. I don't have any emotional problems or anything like that. There is no proof of these claims.

Oh yay for anecdotal evidence. Just 5 pages ago, anecdotal evidence wasn't the equal of statistical evidence. Now that it backs up your point its fine. Everybody is different, and I hate to break it to you but not everyone is like you. People respond differently to different situations and the reactions always vary.

[MaxQue]

People respond differently to different situations and the reactions always vary.

You are right, NCY.

But, then, why ban underage sex if only a minority will have a bad reaction to it? It is unfair to the majority.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Yankee, now you are just being ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with having sex at age 14. I don't have any emotional problems or anything like that. There is no proof of these claims.

Oh yay for anecdotal evidence. Just 5 pages ago, anecdotal evidence wasn't the equal of statistical evidence. Now that it backs up your point its fine. Everybody is different, and I hate to break it to you but not everyone is like you. People respond differently to different situations and the reactions always vary.

You were the one supporting anecdotal evidence.

Like I said, I don't necessarily agree with the premise of this bill.

Maybe more people should be like me.

[Ban my account ffs!]

NCY-- Calm down.  Seriously.

Kids look at porn.  If you didn't, good for you.  It's not your choice as to whether I look at porn or my kids look at porn.  And while the government should indeed discourage the type of promiscuity that can hurt others (spreading STDs, unplanned pregnancies, etc.), looking at porn is not one of those things.

Getting up and arms about it and taking our thoughts completely out of context makes you look ridiculous.

We are arguing that the choice about porn is up to us.  You are arguing that the government should "discourage it" by "making it illegal".  Personal morals that don't affect others are not for the government to enforce.  We live in a free country, not a Christian theocracy.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NCY-- Calm down.  Seriously.

Kids look at porn.  If you didn't, good for you.  It's not your choice as to whether I look at porn or my kids look at porn.  And while the government should indeed discourage the type of promiscuity that can hurt others (spreading STDs, unplanned pregnancies, etc.), looking at porn is not one of those things.

Getting up and arms about it and taking our thoughts completely out of context makes you look ridiculous.

We are arguing that the choice about porn is up to us.  You are arguing that the government should "discourage it" by "making it illegal".  Personal morals that don't affect others are not for the government to enforce.  We live in a free country, not a Christian theocracy.

To me it looks opposite. What you guys propose is whats ridiculous. I have become accustomed to blowing my stack at what I see as an unfairness or double standard which is what I see here. Like Sbane or you claiming that I should shut up cause you think my points are ridiculous. When did you two get appointed the final arbiter of whats ridiculous? I think you guys are being pretty ridiculous arguing for what you do but I don't use that against you or call you ridiculous because I disagree with you. I give you that courtesy you should at least be able to return the favor.

[Ban my account ffs!]

NCY-- Calm down.  Seriously.

Kids look at porn.  If you didn't, good for you.  It's not your choice as to whether I look at porn or my kids look at porn.  And while the government should indeed discourage the type of promiscuity that can hurt others (spreading STDs, unplanned pregnancies, etc.), looking at porn is not one of those things.

Getting up and arms about it and taking our thoughts completely out of context makes you look ridiculous.

We are arguing that the choice about porn is up to us.  You are arguing that the government should "discourage it" by "making it illegal".  Personal morals that don't affect others are not for the government to enforce.  We live in a free country, not a Christian theocracy.

To me it looks opposite. What you guys propose is whats ridiculous. I have become accustomed to blowing my stack at what I see as an unfairness or double standard which is what I see here. Like Sbane or you claiming that I should shut up cause you think my points are ridiculous. When did you two get appointed the final arbiter of whats ridiculous? I think you guys are being pretty ridiculous arguing for what you do but I don't use that against you or call you ridiculous because I disagree with you. I give you that courtesy you should at least be able to return the favor.

What I find ridiculous is that you want to use legal authority to apply your personal moral beliefs on others lest some fantastical moral disaster occur.

Also, just because I support allowing 14yo's to buy pornography consisting of 18+ consenting adults does not mean I am encouraging it.  That choice is ultimately up to the kid.  His parents can guide him, discourage it, ban the stuff from the household.  But ultimately that decision should be between the child and his parents, not with the government.

[Sbane]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

Since when are concerned about just physical health. What about Mental and emotional health as well. Surely these are affected by someone having sex so early. 

Proof?

And LOL at me having "sole custody of the right ideas" because I am from California.

[Хahar 🤔]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

Who said it was a crime to not look at porn? I don't; I wouldn't if it became legal. Your faux outrage is amusing.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

Who said it was a crime to not look at porn? I don't; I wouldn't if it became legal. Your faux outrage is amusing.

I think I can guarrentee you one thing Xahar, the outrage is very real. Its the way the supporters of this bill have approached our position.  People who live good productive lives are looked down upon in today's society. In order to fit in you have have to be doing the above things.

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

Since when are concerned about just physical health. What about Mental and emotional health as well. Surely these are affected by someone having sex so early. 

Proof?

And LOL at me having "sole custody of the right ideas" because I am from California.

Why bother? You wouldn't pay attention anyway or fined some silly a**  way to discredit the author or article.

You seemed to act as if you think you do have all the right ideas, especially after the treatment I have received from you and your companions for opposing this bill. I get the same kind of elitist arrogance from you that I have gotten from Hamilton, Xahar, even PiT to some degree. It just gushes out in insufferable globs everytime you speak.

[Sbane]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

Who said it was a crime to not look at porn? I don't; I wouldn't if it became legal. Your faux outrage is amusing.

I think I can guarrentee you one thing Xahar, the outrage is very real. Its the way the supporters of this bill have approached our position.  People who live good productive lives are looked down upon in today's society. In order to fit in you have have to be doing the above things.

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

Since when are concerned about just physical health. What about Mental and emotional health as well. Surely these are affected by someone having sex so early. 

Proof?

And LOL at me having "sole custody of the right ideas" because I am from California.

Why bother? You wouldn't pay attention anyway or fined some silly a**  way to discredit the author or article.

You seemed to act as if you think you do have all the right ideas, especially after the treatment I have received from you and your companions for opposing this bill. I get the same kind of elitist arrogance from you that I have gotten from Hamilton, Xahar, even PiT to some degree. It just gushes out in insufferable globs everytime you speak.

I didn't give you any sh**t for opposing this bill, but rather for supporting that straw man bill Fritz came up with. I think those who opposed this bill had a legitimate viewpoint that I disagreed with. But just because we support this bill doesn't mean we want kids to be in pornos, or to start smoking weed, or walk the streets etc etc.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Elitist? Me? wut

[Hatman 🍁]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

I hope that isn't a threat to mess with the election results. The Senate still has the oversight power to make your life miserable if you do.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

Who said it was a crime to not look at porn? I don't; I wouldn't if it became legal. Your faux outrage is amusing.

I think I can guarrentee you one thing Xahar, the outrage is very real. Its the way the supporters of this bill have approached our position.  People who live good productive lives are looked down upon in today's society. In order to fit in you have have to be doing the above things.

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

Since when are concerned about just physical health. What about Mental and emotional health as well. Surely these are affected by someone having sex so early. 

Proof?

And LOL at me having "sole custody of the right ideas" because I am from California.

Why bother? You wouldn't pay attention anyway or fined some silly a**  way to discredit the author or article.

You seemed to act as if you think you do have all the right ideas, especially after the treatment I have received from you and your companions for opposing this bill. I get the same kind of elitist arrogance from you that I have gotten from Hamilton, Xahar, even PiT to some degree. It just gushes out in insufferable globs everytime you speak.

I didn't give you any sh**t for opposing this bill, but rather for supporting that straw man bill Fritz came up with. I think those who opposed this bill had a legitimate viewpoint that I disagreed with. But just because we support this bill doesn't mean we want kids to be in pornos, or to start smoking weed, or walk the streets etc etc.

I was being sarcastic, dummy. Didn't you read that part of the post. I haven't taken a position on that at all to be honest. What I was referring to was all the accusations of hyporcracy like "Everybody looks at porn at 14", and "I highly doubt you didn't look at porn when you were 14" and on and on and on. I would call that, giving us some sh**t.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

I hope that isn't a threat to mess with the election results. The Senate still has the oversight power to make your life miserable if you do.

Cool it, NCY. There's heated debate and then there's just threatening people, and this comes close to crossing a line.

[Хahar 🤔]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

I hope that isn't a threat to mess with the election results. The Senate still has the oversight power to make your life miserable if you do.

He was clearly referring to his vote for Senate.

[Sbane]

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

Who said it was a crime to not look at porn? I don't; I wouldn't if it became legal. Your faux outrage is amusing.

I think I can guarrentee you one thing Xahar, the outrage is very real. Its the way the supporters of this bill have approached our position.  People who live good productive lives are looked down upon in today's society. In order to fit in you have have to be doing the above things.

Ughh working with you people is torture sometimes.

Uh oh

As in people with no regard for moral values.

Cuz I'm sure you didn't look at porn at 14.. that you were illegally possessing.

Since when is it a crime to NOT look at porn at 14 or 15 or 16 for that matter? Why does our culture force everyone to live lives of sin in order to be treated fairly. You got to look at porn at 14, have sex at 16, start smoking at 12 and start Marijauna by 16. Am I the only that finds something wrong with a culture that discourages NOT doing these thinks.

I don't find anything wrong with looking at porn at the age of 14 or having sex at 16. But smoking cigarettes and marijuana is harmful to your health and kids cannot make those decisions. Until you can prove to me that watching porn at 14 or having sex at 16 is harmful to one' health, please keep quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.

Since when are concerned about just physical health. What about Mental and emotional health as well. Surely these are affected by someone having sex so early. 

Proof?

And LOL at me having "sole custody of the right ideas" because I am from California.

Why bother? You wouldn't pay attention anyway or fined some silly a**  way to discredit the author or article.

You seemed to act as if you think you do have all the right ideas, especially after the treatment I have received from you and your companions for opposing this bill. I get the same kind of elitist arrogance from you that I have gotten from Hamilton, Xahar, even PiT to some degree. It just gushes out in insufferable globs everytime you speak.

I didn't give you any sh**t for opposing this bill, but rather for supporting that straw man bill Fritz came up with. I think those who opposed this bill had a legitimate viewpoint that I disagreed with. But just because we support this bill doesn't mean we want kids to be in pornos, or to start smoking weed, or walk the streets etc etc.

I was being sarcastic, dummy. Didn't you read that part of the post. I haven't taken a position on that at all to be honest. What I was referring to was all the accusations of hyporcracy like "Everybody looks at porn at 14", and "I highly doubt you didn't look at porn when you were 14" and on and on and on. I would call that, giving us some sh**t.

Umm you don't think I know you were being sarcastic, especially when you made it pretty clear? I am sure Fritz was being sarcastic too but I just found it incomprehensible how someone could compare 14 year olds watching porn to starring in them. The message you guys were trying to send is what I was protesting against.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

I hope that isn't a threat to mess with the election results. The Senate still has the oversight power to make your life miserable if you do.

He was clearly referring to his vote for Senate.

Quite.

[Lief 🗽]

X Lief

[Hatman 🍁]

Hurray for freedom! Those who voted against this bill will not be forgotten on election day.

I hope that isn't a threat to mess with the election results. The Senate still has the oversight power to make your life miserable if you do.

He was clearly referring to his vote for Senate.

Quite.

Right. If I were to rig the election, it would happen the day after election day