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« Reply #4725 on: October 04, 2011, 08:48:37 PM »

Voting has ended.  The Ayes are 3, and Nays are 1.  The bill passes.  The Assembly will now consider the Resolution introduced by the Rep from MA.  Debate will last 48 hours;

I'd like to introduce a resolution to censure wormyguy for his use of unparliamentary language in the title of the Undoing Unconstitutional, Undemocratic, and Evil "Review" Binding Resolution.


On a side note, this is the last piece of legislation in the Queue so if anyone has something to propose, please do so.
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« Reply #4726 on: October 05, 2011, 08:48:32 AM »

While I'm sure certain assemblymen have undoubtedly noble desires to institute censorship and only allow certain opinions to be expressed in this assembly, I would like to point out that if the Northeast public sees me as being excessively "unparliamentary" then they are free to vote me out of office.  Seeing as they never have, I think I'm pretty safe for now.
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« Reply #4727 on: October 05, 2011, 08:50:51 AM »

I have to agree with wormyguy here.  Though his debating methods may be aggressive and often condescending, I don't believe in censorship.  If the sponsor and those who agree with this bill dislike the Representative, they should work to get others elected over him.
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« Reply #4728 on: October 05, 2011, 03:40:55 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2011, 03:43:14 PM by Nathan »

Censure is a parliamentary procedure, not a political one. In these cases, it instills the need for respect of oneself and others in public debate.

If we aren't generally going to be in the business of 'censoring' one another's vituperative and infantile attacks during debates, please let me know for the next time a bill that the gentleman from Massachusetts has authored comes to us for consideration.
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« Reply #4729 on: October 06, 2011, 09:50:34 AM »

I oppose this measure.
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« Reply #4730 on: October 06, 2011, 12:59:07 PM »

I'm withdrawing the motion of censure but reiterate for the record my disapproval of the gentleman from Massachusetts's debating style and my belief that we in the Northeast Assembly should have stricter guidelines for respecting ourselves and one another in the course of our public business.
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« Reply #4731 on: October 06, 2011, 01:18:14 PM »

Withdrawn.  The Assembly will now consider the Resolution sponsored by the Rep from MA.  Debate will last 48 hours.

Resolution:

The "Scott Doctrine" is hereby repealed.
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« Reply #4732 on: October 06, 2011, 01:19:57 PM »

I wish I could just table this, but I can't.  Therefore, I'm requesting a reduction in debate time of 12 hours.  Simultaneously, I'm granting it Wink


Debate time reduced 12 hours.
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« Reply #4733 on: October 06, 2011, 03:32:48 PM »

I'll be honest.  I think it's pretty childish that now we're proposing bills to repeal legislation that was already passed in the same session.  Fortunately, I don't believe this resolution has very good chances of passing, and if it does, I expect that this will be vetoed, as the governor signed the Scott Doctrine soon after it was passed.

I strongly oppose this measure.
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« Reply #4734 on: October 06, 2011, 08:27:04 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2011, 01:15:41 AM by Nathan »

Bills like this are the cancer that is killing representative democracy.

I would like to, not introduce a formal amendment as such, but express my general belief that the resolution should in a better world be changed to read as follows:

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It has as much chance of passing and is exactly as serious as the original text.
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« Reply #4735 on: October 07, 2011, 02:33:53 AM »

Should the Speaker assume this amendment is not intended for a final vote?  Tongue
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« Reply #4736 on: October 07, 2011, 09:30:18 AM »

He should. It's for rhetorical purposes only.
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« Reply #4737 on: October 07, 2011, 01:39:43 PM »

He should. It's for rhetorical purposes only.

I know.  I just don't need anyone telling me I skipped a vote on an amendment Wink
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« Reply #4738 on: October 07, 2011, 05:34:46 PM »

Honestly, though wormy's language was unneeded, censure is simply overreaction. Freedom of speech should apply to legislative bodies as well; we are citizens, after all.
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« Reply #4739 on: October 07, 2011, 05:42:52 PM »

Honestly, though wormy's language was unneeded, censure is simply overreaction. Freedom of speech should apply to legislative bodies as well; we are citizens, after all.

We're not debating that Resolution anymore Representative Snowstalker.  It was withdrawn.
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« Reply #4740 on: October 08, 2011, 03:13:49 AM »

Debate has ended.  The Assembly will now vote on the bill in question.  Voting will last 24 hours.  The final bill reads as follows;

Resolution:

The "Scott Doctrine" is hereby repealed.
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« Reply #4741 on: October 08, 2011, 08:52:10 AM »

A strong, and resounding, nay.
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« Reply #4742 on: October 08, 2011, 10:13:26 AM »

Abstain
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« Reply #4743 on: October 08, 2011, 11:43:56 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #4744 on: October 08, 2011, 12:01:53 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #4745 on: October 08, 2011, 01:46:49 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #4746 on: October 08, 2011, 02:22:21 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #4747 on: October 08, 2011, 11:45:31 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #4748 on: October 08, 2011, 11:52:19 PM »


I'm sorry, but you've been expelled.
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« Reply #4749 on: October 09, 2011, 03:30:48 AM »

Voting has ended.  The Ayes are 1, Nays are 4, with Abstention.  The Bill fails.  The Assembly will now consider the Constitution introduced by the Rep from NY, and written by the Senator from MA.  Debate will last 48 hours;

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=138801.0
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