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« Reply #2625 on: July 13, 2010, 06:32:25 PM »

I note the Speaker's points, and agree quite unilaterally with him on this issue.
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« Reply #2626 on: July 13, 2010, 07:05:47 PM »

I don't support this bill. I believe that increasing the minimum wage will hurt small businesses who are already struggling to pay their employees and make ends meet. Small businesses are doing everything they can to stay afloat, and do we really want to make their lives harder? Increasing the minimum wage will hurt the economy, cause a rise in unemployment, and will exacerbate the problems it was meant to destroy.

Aside from an ideological difference with this bill, there are practical and legal matters that conflict with this bill. The first problem, that we have a huge deficit, and it would be irresponsible to expand the deficit through tax cuts right now, lest we create a bigger deficit and mortgage our children's future. The second problem, is that this bill directly conflicts with already established law.

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In other words, we can't unilaterally increase the Northeast minimum wage. We must set our minimum wage equal to the Federal minimum wage. That is the law.

I shall be voting nay on this bill (no offense, Representative Sargent), and I hope the rest of the Northeast Assembly will do the same.

I agree with most of this statement. By increasing the minimum wage, especially by 5%, small businesses will really suffer the most out of all of this. As most of us know, the Northeast has a very lage small business block. If this were to pass, we would be killing the dreams and incomes of a lot of hard working people of this region.

As someone who works for a "Small business" that can barely make ends meet, I have to third this. Any one of my friends that works for a big chain starts off with atleast fifty-cents greater than the minimum wage - this strikes a blow to the gut of small business.
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« Reply #2627 on: July 13, 2010, 07:08:29 PM »

The small businesses also get a tax cut in my proposal that would offset the extra costs that they would incur(though this current bill is poorly written). My intent is on a bill that would be cost neutral for the small businesses. I won't sign a bill that doesn't do that.
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« Reply #2628 on: July 13, 2010, 07:09:25 PM »

The small businesses also get a tax cut in my proposal that would offset the extra costs that they would incur(though this current bill is poorly written). My intent is on a bill that would be cost neutral for the small businesses. I won't sign a bill that doesn't do that.

Could it perhaps be a carrot instead of a stick?
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« Reply #2629 on: July 13, 2010, 09:10:48 PM »

The small businesses also get a tax cut in my proposal that would offset the extra costs that they would incur(though this current bill is poorly written). My intent is on a bill that would be cost neutral for the small businesses. I won't sign a bill that doesn't do that.

Could it perhaps be a carrot instead of a stick?

Well what do you have in mind?
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« Reply #2630 on: July 13, 2010, 09:13:26 PM »

The small businesses also get a tax cut in my proposal that would offset the extra costs that they would incur(though this current bill is poorly written). My intent is on a bill that would be cost neutral for the small businesses. I won't sign a bill that doesn't do that.

Could it perhaps be a carrot instead of a stick?

Well what do you have in mind?

I have no power in the Assembly any more, but perhaps it would just be a "voluntary" mechanism? (Paying an employee X% greater than the minimum wage in exchange for X% tax-cut) Perhaps that could be used by employers to incentivize workers to work harder.
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« Reply #2631 on: July 14, 2010, 10:20:24 AM »

The thing is that this bill conflicts with already established law. Therefore, we can't increase the minimum wage without repealing The New Northeast Minimum Wage Act.

As for the tax breaks, realize that when we pass the bill, we're not cutting spending to go along with these tax breaks, which will lead to a bigger deficit. Is that really what we want? I mean, tax breaks are all nice and dandy, but this bill isn't very responsible with them.
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« Reply #2632 on: July 15, 2010, 02:52:31 PM »

Ok, as debate as already ended 2 hours ago, I think that it is time to open the drubbing voting.
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« Reply #2633 on: July 15, 2010, 03:35:09 PM »



We will now hold a vote on [Needs A Name]. Representatives have 24 hours to vote.

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« Reply #2634 on: July 15, 2010, 03:36:00 PM »

NAY.
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« Reply #2635 on: July 15, 2010, 03:36:24 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #2636 on: July 15, 2010, 04:24:29 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #2637 on: July 15, 2010, 04:56:36 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #2638 on: July 15, 2010, 07:05:55 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #2639 on: July 15, 2010, 08:21:09 PM »

Naw
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« Reply #2640 on: July 15, 2010, 11:16:55 PM »

Did we ever pick a representative to the ConstiConvo? I nominate myself, if not.
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« Reply #2641 on: July 16, 2010, 01:14:55 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #2642 on: July 16, 2010, 02:48:54 AM »

Did we ever pick a representative to the ConstiConvo? I nominate myself, if not.

An individual actually interested in a genuine good faith debate over game reform would be preferable to someone who has demonstrated a general lack of knowledge in every subject on which he's spoke.
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« Reply #2643 on: July 16, 2010, 04:32:33 AM »

Did we ever pick a representative to the ConstiConvo? I nominate myself, if not.

An individual actually interested in a genuine good faith debate over game reform would be preferable to someone who has demonstrated a general lack of knowledge in every subject on which he's spoke.

And someone who had more than the IQ of a grapefruit would be preferable to you for the position of vice president.
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« Reply #2644 on: July 16, 2010, 09:23:53 AM »



With seven nays, [Needs A Name] fails.
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« Reply #2645 on: July 16, 2010, 09:28:01 AM »

2 things.

1. When will the special election be held for SoIA Winston Disraeli's seat?
2. I nominate our Senator Dallasfan65 to be our delegate for the Constitutional Convention.
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« Reply #2646 on: July 16, 2010, 01:38:21 PM »

I will nominate myself as delegate, though I will also second Dallasfan's nomination.
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« Reply #2647 on: July 16, 2010, 02:13:21 PM »

I withdraw my nomination because I would support Speaker's nominee. A fine candidate and a great fellow, Dallasfan is the person we need to represent the Northeast at the ConCon.
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« Reply #2648 on: July 17, 2010, 03:12:45 PM »

Dallasfan would be a wonderful choice.
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« Reply #2649 on: July 17, 2010, 08:05:25 PM »

Does anyone have any more nominations for delegates? If not, we might as well hold a vote on who we'll nominate to the Constitutional Convention.
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