Northeast Assembly Thread

[cinyc]

One thing we're going to have to think about is how this affects the veto provisions of the constitution. Right now, they are open ended, not putting a time limit on when a bill must be vetoed.  This bill would effectively force the Governor to decide whether to veto a bill within 7 days or be replaced by the Lt. Governor.

Is that something we want to do?  I don't know.  

It fits with the proposed Veto Override Amendment, though - which would force the Governor to decide within 7 days or have the bill deemed passed.

Therefore, we might want to make subsection b) contingent on the Veto Override Amendment passing.

Adding something like:

"4. Proposed Subsection Article IV, Section xiv)(b) shall become effective only if the Proposed Veto Override Amendment to the Northeast Constitution passes in the same election.   If the Proposed Veto Override Amendment to the Northeast Constitution fails, Proposed Section xiv)(b) shall be deleted and Sections xiv)(c)-(e) shall be renumbered xiv)(b)-(d)."

Thoughts?

[Dr. Cynic]

Sounds fine, Mr. Speaker.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Support.

[cinyc]

I'm probably not going to be available at 2:45PM.  Since there's been no recent debate, I'm going to open the vote a bit early instead of late:

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This vote shall remain open until the earlier of 12:50PM Eastern on Sunday, February 6, 2010 or when all Representatives have voted.

[cinyc]

Aye

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[Countess Anya of the North Parish]

AYE.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

Aye

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Aye

[cinyc]

By a vote of 6-0, with 2 absences, the Lt. Governor Vacancy Amendment meets the requirement that a proposed constitutional amendment receive two-thirds of the overall vote and the vote of a majority of Assembly members.  Therefore, the amendment passes, and will be sent to the Governor for his assent.

Next bill:

Northeast Order of Precedence Act

1. The Northeast Region shall use following order for ceremonial purpouses:
a. Governor
b. Lieutenant Governor
c. Chief Judicial Officer
d. Speaker of the Assembly
e. Former Governors (in order of terms of service)
f. Current Representatives by lenght of service
g. Former Lieutenant Governors (in order of terms of service)
2. In a case when two incumbent Representatives have the same seniority, following factors shall be used to determine higher seniority:
a. Lenght of previous non-consensutive service
b. Number of registered voters in Representative's home state

Sponsor: Rep. Kalwejt

The question is whether the bill should be considered?

The ayes have it.

Debate on this bill will continue until at least 1:05PM Eastern on Tuesday, February 9, 2010, unless the debate period is extended or shortened in accordance with the SOAP.

The Sponsor, Representative Kalwejt, has the floor.

[cinyc]

Rep. Mr. Moderate has missed three consecutive votes without posting an official leave of absence.  This technically means that he is expelled from the Assembly under Article V, Section xiii of the New Northeast Constitution.  I have informed the Governor of the situation.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Motion to shorten the debate period. To the shortest time you will agree to.

[cinyc]

Motion to shorten the debate period. To the shortest time you will agree to.

I'd like to hear from the sponsor first before deciding on a shorter period.  It won't be less than 24 hours. 

I have some concerns about this legislation - especially since it conflicts with the order established in the Constitution.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Mr. Speaker, fellow Representatives.

I understand that the proposal of the order of precedence act have no other significance than purely symbolic, but since many countries and subnational divisions all around the world, as well as Atlasian Federal Government, are using this, I can see no reason why we shouldn't adopt this as well, as a symbol of our institutions.

Also, I have nothing against shortening the period of debate.

As of ay grammar/language amendments, I'm open for.

Thank you.

[cinyc]

Okay.  The debate period will be 24 hours.  I will open the vote some time around 1:00 or 2:00PM Eastern tomorrow, depending on when I am available.

[cinyc]

Inadvertently edited. 

This post had the proposed typo fix included in the final bill and a statement questioning the constitutionality of the bill.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Well, if this bill is unconstitutionnal, I can't support it even though I favor the order of precedence proposed by Rep Kalwejt.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Mr. Speaker

I would like to point that the act have nothing to do with a chain of command. Just like United States order of precedence have nothing to do with the presidential line of succession. For example, Chief Justice is excluded from the line but appears highly in order of precedence, higher than Senate president pro tempore who's third in line.

This is for ceremonial purpouses only and is not an constitutional issue at all.

I hope I put that clear.

[cinyc]

Mr. Speaker

I would like to point that the act have nothing to do with a chain of command. Just like United States order of precedence have nothing to do with the presidential line of succession. For example, Chief Justice is excluded from the line but appears highly in order of precedence, higher than Senate president pro tempore who's third in line.

This is for ceremonial purpouses only and is not an constitutional issue at all.

I hope I put that clear.

Noted - though I don't think there's much of a difference.

Is my amendment to the bill friendly?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Mr. Speaker

I would like to point that the act have nothing to do with a chain of command. Just like United States order of precedence have nothing to do with the presidential line of succession. For example, Chief Justice is excluded from the line but appears highly in order of precedence, higher than Senate president pro tempore who's third in line.

This is for ceremonial purpouses only and is not an constitutional issue at all.

I hope I put that clear.

Noted - though I don't think there's much of a difference.

Is my amendment to the bill friendly?

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

[cinyc]

We shall now proceed to a vote on the bill:

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This vote will remain open until the earlier of 3:00PM Eastern on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 or when all Representatives shall have voted.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Aye

(and please... it's clear it's irrevelant to the chain of command)

[Dr. Cynic]

Mr. Speaker, fellow Representatives, forgive me for my recent asbsence, but I had no power until late last night and was staying in a motel with no wifi.

As for the vote...

I vote Aye

[cinyc]

Nay

Yikes! Rep. Docyor Cynic - snow happens, I guess.