Atlasian Conservative Organization Scores

[cinyc]

The Atlasian Conservative Organization (ACO), a new Atlasia conservative advocacy group, is proud to announce that it will begin scoring Senatorial votes.  This will allow citizens of Atlasia to determine just how conservative members of the Atlasian Senate are, and to pressure our representatives to vote more conservative (or liberal, I guess).

Current Senate Bills to be Scored

Bill Name	Increased ACO Score	Subscore(s) Affected
Bow Chicka Bow Wow Bill	Nay	Social
Student Loan Reformation Act (in queue)	Nay	Econ

Future votes to be scored will be considered when bills reach the Senate floor, announced in a response on this thread, and added to the table above.

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Current ACO Scores (33rd Senate (Summer/Fall 2009 Session))

Senator	Party-Seat	ACO Score	ACO Economic	ACO Social	ACO Foreign Policy
Sen. Afleitch	DA-AL	50	0	--	100
Sen. Franzl	DA-AL	50	0	--	100
Sen. Fritz	JCP-AL	50	0	--	100
Sen. Hashemite	DA-NE	50	0	--	100
Sen. Marokai Blue	JCP-AL	25	0	--	50
Sen. MasterJedi	RPP-MW	50	0	--	100
Sen. MaxQue	JCP-P	67	0	--	100
Sen. North Carolina Yankee	RPP-SE	75	50	--	100
Sen. RowanBrandon	DA-AL	100	100	--	100
Sen. Tmthforu94	RPP-ME	67	0	--	100

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33rd Senate Bills Scored

Bill Name	Increases ACO Score	Subscore(s) Affected	Vote
Emergency Resoluton Authorizing Use of Force Against Terrorists	Aye	FP	8-0*
'Merton Rule' Bill	Nay	Econ	2-7
GTO Expansion 2	Aye	FP	9-1
Reasonable Minimum Wage Bill	Nay	Econ	1-8

* - Emergency Quick Vote.  Sen. NCYankee stated support after final vote officially tallied.  Sen. Fritz absent.

Votes are stated in (supported ACO position)-(opposed ACO position) format.

[Alexander Hamilton]

You gotta start by ranking votes on amendments and bills already completed this session. RowanBrandon and NC Yankee obviously win though.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'll be working hard to get your lowest score.

[cinyc]

You gotta start by ranking votes on amendments and bills already completed this session. RowanBrandon and NC Yankee obviously win though.

The ACO believes that scoring earlier votes would be unfair to members of the Senate, who did not have prior notice that the votes would have been scored.   Therefore, we will decline to do so.

[Хahar 🤔]

I think I'll start an Atlasian Socialist Organization.

Mind if I steal your idea, cinyc?

[cinyc]

I think I'll start an Atlasian Socialist Organization.

Mind if I steal your idea, cinyc?

Be my guest.  More info about the conduct of our Senators is always better.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Could I possibly convince you to score the BCBW porn bill when it makes its way to the Senate floor.

You gotta start by ranking votes on amendments and bills already completed this session. RowanBrandon and NC Yankee obviously win though.

But there was that 1 Trillion dollar stimulus bill I voted for, and the minimum wage bill that I am supporting.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Could I possibly convince you to score the BCBW porn bill when it makes its way to the Senate floor.

You gotta start by ranking votes on amendments and bills already completed this session. RowanBrandon and NC Yankee obviously win though.

But there was that 1 Trillion dollar stimulus bill I voted for, and the minimum wage bill that I am supporting.

Which is still enough to earn second place at the very least.

[cinyc]

Could I possibly convince you to score the BCBW porn bill when it makes its way to the Senate floor.

We will consider scoring additional bills when they reach the Senate floor.  That's certainly one bill we have our eye on.

[Hash]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

[Hash]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

Of course, but I still vote my conscience unless there's good reason not to, such as a bill that would negatively effect my constituents.

[Sewer]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

Tell that to MasterJedi.

[cinyc]

Taking a final look at legislation currently on the Senate floor, we will also be scoring the 'Merton Rule' Bill and Emergency Resoluton Authorizing Use of Force Against Terrorists.  A vote against the 'Merton Rule' bill in its current form will increase a Senator's ACO score.  A vote for the  Emergency Resolution Authorizing Use of Force Against Terrorists in its current form will increase a Senator's ACO score.

All other bills currently on the Senate floor will not be scored.

I will keep a list of bills to be scored in the original post.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

He was elected to cast his votes based on his opinion on the issues, just as I was. He can listen to his constituents, but he can't represent everyone all the time.

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

Tell that to MasterJedi.

That too.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

Tell that to MasterJedi.

I'm not a Midwesterner.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

Tell that to MasterJedi.

I'm not a Midwesterner.

You're right, this is what you are:

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Thank you cinyc, this is a good idea. Though I see no reason why it should be limited to senators.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

Tell that to MasterJedi.

I'm not a Midwesterner.

You're right, this is what you are:

I moved regions once. I fail to see how that makes me a chameleon. My views did not change.

[Smid]

Good and interesting initiative.

However, these kind of ratings don't influence my votes in that I don't try to pander to any one side. I vote my conscience.

You should be voting to represent your constituents first and foremost.

He was elected to cast his votes based on his opinion on the issues, just as I was. He can listen to his constituents, but he can't represent everyone all the time.

I agree with this statement. It is then up to his constituents to determine whether or not they will vote for him at the next election. Likewise, I don't believe that a conservative Senator should necessarily support a left-wing bill with which they disagree, merely because their Region/Constituents slant left. If they believe he's doing a good job, they'll re-elect him.

It reminds me of this Edmund Burke quote:

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Cinyc's grading system will help enlighten constituents to the beliefs of their representative Senators, allowing them to make a more educated decision at election time. Hopefully it won't lead to Senators who vary their opinions with the intention of being elected, although that's just my idealism talking.

I think this is an excellent idea, but I would like to see it broken down in reporting - Conservative Votes on Social Agenda, Conservative Votes on Economic Agenda and an overall rating.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

What about conservative foreign policy rating?

[cinyc]

Thank you cinyc, this is a good idea. Though I see no reason why it should be limited to senators.

As of right now, the ACO scoring system is experimental.   We don't have the resources to monitor anything but the Senate (or at least federal activity).  The only thing we may apply the ACO scoring system to in the near future is Presidential action - signatures or vetoes of Senate bills.

[cinyc]

I think this is an excellent idea, but I would like to see it broken down in reporting - Conservative Votes on Social Agenda, Conservative Votes on Economic Agenda and an overall rating.

Excellent idea.  If we have enough votes on both types of issues, I'll try to break it down.  The Minimum Wage Bill and 'Merton Rule' Bill votes would obviously affect a Senator's ACO economic score, while voting on the Emergency Resoluton Authorizing Use of Force Against Terrorists would likely affect a Senator's ACO social agenda score.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Shouldn't there be three categories, as in real life?

I see no reason why the force against terrorists bill should affect the social score--it's a matter of foreign policy.

[cinyc]

Shouldn't there be three categories, as in real life?

I see no reason why the force against terrorists bill should affect the social score--it's a matter of foreign policy.

Perhaps.  One problem with creating 3 scores is that there's probably not enough legislation to make them meaningful.  If there's only one major foreign policy (or social policy) vote, then everyone's score will be 0 or 100.  And the ACO prefers not to score every bill - that will decrease any potential influence we may (or may not) have.   Plus, the major recent foreign policy actions - like free trade treaties - are ultimately economic, too.  So they might end up being scored in 2 categories.

Thinking out loud, if we want 3 scores, the general rules would be:

Economic Score - Votes that would effectively increase economic freedom and support free-market economic principles would increase a Senator's ACO score.
Social Score - Votes that recognize the role of the traditional nuclear family and religious freedom will increase a Senator's ACO score.
Foreign Policy Score - Votes that would effectuate neo-con foreign policies and free trade will increase a Senator's ACO score.