Greatest Presidents that we never had: Part 1

[RIP Robert H Bork]

OK, I am going to do a new series on failed presidential candidates. This includes only candidates who have actually recieved any votes in the electoral college, faithless electors not included, and does not include those who actually were President at some point.

Part 1: 1788-1812
Part 2: 1816-1844
Part 3: 1848-1868
Part 4: 1872-1896
Part 5: 1900-1924
Part 6: 1928-1956
Part 7: 1960-1984
Part 8: 1988-2008

In part 1, there are only two people, Charles Pinckney (who lost 1804 and 1808) and DeWitt Clinton (who lost 1812). So cast your vote!

The poll will close in a week, after which it is part 2.

[Psychic Octopus]

DeWitt Clinton, I suppose.

[Хahar 🤔]

Pinckney, certainly. DeWitt Clinton was not to be trusted.

[Alexander Hamilton]

DeWitt Clinton, I suppose.

[Sewer]

DeWitt Clinton.



Pinckney was a dickass.

[H. Ross Peron]

Obviously Alexander Hamilton. He was the most modern and visionary of our Founding Fathers. He would have helped make America a superpower even faster then before and would have established the Anglo-American Friendship.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Obviously Alexander Hamilton. He was the most modern and visionary of our Founding Fathers. He would have helped make America a superpower even faster then before and would have established the Anglo-American Friendship.

Agreed but that is not an option for this poll.

[Mechaman]

Obviously Alexander Hamilton. He was the most modern and visionary of our Founding Fathers. He would have helped make America a superpower even faster then before and would have established the Anglo-American Friendship.

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A strong central government is by no means "modern" and I definitely wouldn't argue that it is visionary. Hamilton's ideas on government would've taken us backwards and not forward.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

DeWitt Clinton is voted the greatest President we never had in the period covered by part 1.

[big bad fab]

At the end, do you intend to gather all the winners and make a final contest ?
That would be fine.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

At the end, do you intend to gather all the winners and make a final contest ?
That would be fine.

Exactly. I have not been able to do part 2 yet; will do that later today.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I missed this, I would have voted for DeWitt Clinton.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Part 2: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=102511.0

[WillK]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

OK, I am going to do a new series on failed presidential candidates. This includes only candidates who have actually recieved any votes in the electoral college, faithless electors not included, and does not include those who actually were President at some point.

Part 1: 1788-1812
Part 2: 1816-1844
Part 3: 1848-1868
Part 4: 1872-1896
Part 5: 1900-1924
Part 6: 1928-1956
Part 7: 1960-1984
Part 8: 1988-2008

In part 1, there are only two people, Charles Pinckney (who lost 1804 and 1808) and DeWitt Clinton (who lost 1812). So cast your vote!

The poll will close in a week, after which it is part 2.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

[WillK]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

The criteria for this thread was to  include "only candidates who have actually received any votes in the electoral college".  Burr did receive votes so all I was asking is why he wasn't included in the poll?     

Though if you trying to find my opinion of Burr, I will say that he would have been a better president than Hamilton. 

[Alexander Hamilton]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

The criteria for this thread was to  include "only candidates who have actually received any votes in the electoral college".  Burr did receive votes so all I was asking is why he wasn't included in the poll?     

Though if you trying to find my opinion of Burr, I will say that he would have been a better president than Hamilton. 

ur a psycho

[Psychic Octopus]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

President Burr would have resulted in a failed democratic experiment and a dystopian USA.

[WillK]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

The criteria for this thread was to  include "only candidates who have actually received any votes in the electoral college".  Burr did receive votes so all I was asking is why he wasn't included in the poll?     

Though if you trying to find my opinion of Burr, I will say that he would have been a better president than Hamilton. 

ur a psycho

Not at all.  The psychos are those that obsessively hero-worship Hamilton.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

The criteria for this thread was to  include "only candidates who have actually received any votes in the electoral college".  Burr did receive votes so all I was asking is why he wasn't included in the poll?     

Though if you trying to find my opinion of Burr, I will say that he would have been a better president than Hamilton. 

ur a psycho

Not at all.  The psychos are those that obsessively hero-worship Hamilton.

Hamilton built this nation

[WillK]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

President Burr would have resulted in a failed democratic experiment and a dystopian USA.

Why? Because Hamilton would have launched a coup?

[WillK]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

The criteria for this thread was to  include "only candidates who have actually received any votes in the electoral college".  Burr did receive votes so all I was asking is why he wasn't included in the poll?     

Though if you trying to find my opinion of Burr, I will say that he would have been a better president than Hamilton. 

ur a psycho

Not at all.  The psychos are those that obsessively hero-worship Hamilton.

Hamilton built this nation

Yup, your a psycho

[Alexander Hamilton]

Why only those two?  Why not Aaron Burr or George Clinton?  And I think you should have made the first period stretch to 1816 so as to include Rufus King in this part, since he is more a part of the founding generation then he was a part of the Jackson-Clay-Webster years.

ur a psycho

President Burr would have resulted in a failed democratic experiment and a dystopian USA.

Why? Because Hamilton would have launched a coup?

Because without the genius that is Hamilton, the nation would not have the political structure that allowed it to survive throughout its infantile stage

[WillK]

...
President Burr would have resulted in a failed democratic experiment and a dystopian USA.

Why? Because Hamilton would have launched a coup?
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Because without the genius that is Hamilton, the nation would not have the political structure that allowed it to survive throughout its infantile stage
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What does that have to do with a possible President Burr? 

Besides, Hamilton's political conniving were part of why the country's infantile stage was so infantile.

[Alexander Hamilton]

You should take a history class.