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« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2009, 06:33:34 PM »

Franzl would be elected under the current total. I just don't know exactly what the final margin between him and SPC would be.
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« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2009, 06:36:11 PM »

1 more vote changes the quota. Its what I've been working with, and I assume what the RPP have as well.
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« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2009, 06:49:30 PM »

So, who's really leading so far?
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« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2009, 06:49:57 PM »

I see what I did wrong...when I redistributed Sewer, the 0.12 should have gone to Afleitch instead of Jas.  But that all ends up with Afleitch anyway, so my end result is correct.
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2009, 06:51:21 PM »


RowanBrandon, Marokai and Fritz are almost assuredly elected.

Afleitch is looking to be likely elected, due to the heavy Jas vote.

Franzl and SPC are fighting for 5th.
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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2009, 07:01:51 PM »

Here's an interesting tactical quandry - it looks like Franzl is ahead right now, but if I vote for him, his lead over SPC acutally decreases. How I love STV.
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« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2009, 07:11:28 PM »

Here's an interesting tactical quandry - it looks like Franzl is ahead right now, but if I vote for him, his lead over SPC acutally decreases. How I love STV.

So that is why DWTL has been trying to get people to vote for him Tongue
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« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2009, 07:33:28 PM »

Right - I'm done for tonight. I've made the arithmetic a little easier for every one - a quota of 16 is so much easier to deal with. Only time will tell if I am in the fact the last vote.
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« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2009, 07:35:08 PM »

I still haven't voted... and you just made my decisions quite a bit easier.
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« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2009, 11:27:00 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2009, 11:28:49 PM by Meeker »

Total votes: 93, Quota: 16, Last vote: Lunar

Round I

RowanBrandon16
Marokai Blue16
Fritz16
Franzl14
Afleitch11
SPC8
Duke5
Jas4
Sewer Socialist2
EarlAW1

RowanBrandon, Marokai Blue and Fritz are declared elected.


Round II

RowanBrandon16
Marokai Blue16
Fritz16
Franzl14
Afleitch11
SPC8
Duke5
Jas4
Sewer Socialist2
EarlAW1

EarlAW and Sewer Socialist are both eliminated and their votes redistributed (+3 for Jas).


Round III

RowanBrandon16
Marokai Blue16
Fritz16
Franzl14
Afleitch11
SPC8
Jas7
Duke5

Duke is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+4 for SPC and +1 for Franzl).


Round IV

RowanBrandon16
Marokai Blue16
Fritz16
Franzl15
SPC12
Afleitch11
Jas7

Jas is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+6 for Afleitch, +1 for SPC).


Round V

RowanBrandon16
Marokai Blue16
Fritz16
Afleitch17
Franzl15
SPC13

Afleitch has reached the quota and is declared elected. Franzl is elected without a quota.

Elected:

#1: RowanBrandon
#2: Marokai Blue
#3: Fritz
#4: Afleitch
#5: Franzl

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That ended up being remarkably even and simple in the end.
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« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2009, 11:35:22 PM »

Is Franzl at exactly 15 and SPC exactly 13?  If so then than maybe I will be taking this to court
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« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2009, 11:43:59 PM »

I think Peter's explanation is a pretty sound one, honestly. But it's your Dave-given right.
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« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2009, 11:44:50 PM »

Is Franzl at exactly 15 and SPC exactly 13?  If so then than maybe I will be taking this to court

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Weren't you telling people to vote for Franzl?
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« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2009, 11:45:17 PM »

Is Franzl at exactly 15 and SPC exactly 13?  If so then than maybe I will be taking this to court

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Weren't you telling people to vote for Franzl?

Not over his own party. And the vote is disputed, so he has enough reason.
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« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2009, 11:45:32 PM »

PACIFIC REGIONAL RESULTS

Governor

Meeker1995%
NOTA15%


Lt. Governor

Ebowed1565%
Hamilton730%
NOTA14%
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« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2009, 11:45:44 PM »

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« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2009, 11:46:11 PM »

Is Franzl at exactly 15 and SPC exactly 13?  If so then than maybe I will be taking this to court

On what grounds?
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« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2009, 11:47:06 PM »

Is Franzl at exactly 15 and SPC exactly 13?  If so then than maybe I will be taking this to court

On what grounds?

Two disputed voters that registered on August 12 in their region's time.
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« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2009, 11:47:36 PM »

PACIFIC REGIONAL RESULTS

Governor

Meeker1995%
NOTA15%


Lt. Governor

Ebowed1565%
Hamilton730%
NOTA14%

So... I was totally right about the 7 vote ceiling for Hamilton in the Pacific. Good to be vindicated.
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« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2009, 11:47:57 PM »

Is Franzl at exactly 15 and SPC exactly 13?  If so then than maybe I will be taking this to court

On what grounds?

Two disputed voters that registered on August 12 in their region's time.

lol You have no case there.
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« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2009, 11:48:55 PM »

PACIFIC REGIONAL RESULTS

Governor

Meeker1995%
NOTA15%


Lt. Governor

Ebowed1565%
Hamilton730%
NOTA14%

So... I was totally right about the 7 vote ceiling for Hamilton in the Pacific. Good to be vindicated.

Actually you weren't because three people that were planning on voting for me were harassed about it. (not disclosing) 7 minimum. And I got Torie's vote, who I didn't include in the 7. So basically, I did pretty much the worst I could do, which is disappointing.
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« Reply #71 on: August 25, 2009, 12:52:51 AM »

Total votes: 93, Quota: 16, Last vote: Lunar

Round I

RowanBrandon16(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue16(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz16(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl14(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar)
Afleitch11(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
SPC8(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee)
Duke5(Ben, Mint, SPC, DWTL, Duke)
Jas4(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres)
Sewer Socialist2(Lewis, EarlAW)
EarlAW1(Jas)

RowanBrandon, Marokai Blue and Fritz are declared elected.


Round II


RowanBrandon16(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue16(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz16(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl14(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar)
Afleitch11(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
SPC8(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee)
Duke5(Ben, Mint, SPC, DWTL, Duke)
Jas4(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres)
Sewer Socialist2(Lewis, EarlAW)
EarlAW1(Jas)

EarlAW and Sewer Socialist are both eliminated and their votes redistributed (+3 for Jas (Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)).


Round III

RowanBrandon16(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue16(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz16(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl14(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar)
Afleitch11(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
SPC8(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee)
Jas7(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)
Duke5(Ben, Mint, SPC, DWTL, Duke)

Duke is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+4 for SPC (Ben, SPC, DWTL, Duke) and +1 for Franzl (Mint)).


Round IV

RowanBrandon16(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue16(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz16(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Franzl15(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar, Mint)
SPC12(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee, Ben, SPC, DWTL, Duke)
Afleitch11(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield)
Jas7(Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Vepres, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)

Jas is eliminated and his votes are redistributed (+6 for Afleitch (Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas), +1 for SPC (Vepres)).


Round V

RowanBrandon16(Fallen Morgan, Hamilton, NiK, Ronnie, Smid, cinyc, dead0man, RowanBrandon, MasterJedi, filliatre, JewishCon, floridarepub, Libertas, A-Bob, Daniel Adams, officepark)
Marokai Blue16(MaxQue, Ebowed, Flyers, opebo, Marokai, Eraserhead, Lief, Holmes, xfactor, Antonio, anvikshiki, Iosif, Smash, Earth, Gmantis, Kalwejt)
Fritz16(Sewer Socialist, Sensei, dc_cutie, Fritz, BRTD, Bacon King, Boris, Rob, RosettaStoned, jfern, pnkrocket, jokerman, bgwah, KyleGordon, px75, Ogre Magre)
Afleitch17(Hashemite, Mr. Moderate, Swedish Cheese, Verily, AndrewCT, Barnes, Gustaf, Dibble, Einzige, Afleitch, Winfield, Xahar, Al, ilikeverin, Lewis, EarlAW, Jas)
Franzl15(HappyWarrior, Frodo, realistic, sbane, Sam Spade, Torie, bullmoose, GM3, Purple State, Franzl, Tender, Peter, Meeker, Lunar, Mint)
SPC13(Tmthforu94, Mechman, Giovanni, J.J., Brandon H, PiT, Lahbas, NC Yankee, Ben, SPC, DWTL, Duke, Vepres)

Afleitch has reached the quota and is declared elected. Franzl is elected without a quota.

Elected:

#1: RowanBrandon
#2: Marokai Blue
#3: Fritz
#4: Afleitch
#5: Franzl
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« Reply #72 on: August 25, 2009, 06:10:00 PM »

I'd like to ask a question. This is probably not the right topic for it, but since we don't really have a place for this sort of question I'll still try here.

Well, I'm certainly not an expert in voting systems, but this has always interested me, so that I tried to research about that and now I know the basics. But there is something I don't understand about the voting system used for this election.
The Single Transferable Vote is suppposed to be a proportionnal system, selecting the 5 people that represent better the electors. In this case, why the quota fixed to be elected is 1/6 of the total votes insteasd of 1/5 ? If you fix it at 1/6 where there are only 5 senators elected, the representativity of the elected will be just slowly higher to 5/6, whereas we could have a 100% one with an 1/5 of the votes. This clearly hurts proportionnality of the system and can be dangerous.
If there is a reason why things are so, I hope someone could explain it to me, because this issue worries me since sometimes now. I admit that I can be wrong and will accept any sort of explanation. Thanks a lot. Smiley

I don't believe Antonio ever got an answer to his question.  Does anyone have an answer to this?
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« Reply #73 on: August 25, 2009, 06:33:11 PM »

I'd like to ask a question. This is probably not the right topic for it, but since we don't really have a place for this sort of question I'll still try here.

Well, I'm certainly not an expert in voting systems, but this has always interested me, so that I tried to research about that and now I know the basics. But there is something I don't understand about the voting system used for this election.
The Single Transferable Vote is suppposed to be a proportionnal system, selecting the 5 people that represent better the electors. In this case, why the quota fixed to be elected is 1/6 of the total votes insteasd of 1/5 ? If you fix it at 1/6 where there are only 5 senators elected, the representativity of the elected will be just slowly higher to 5/6, whereas we could have a 100% one with an 1/5 of the votes. This clearly hurts proportionnality of the system and can be dangerous.
If there is a reason why things are so, I hope someone could explain it to me, because this issue worries me since sometimes now. I admit that I can be wrong and will accept any sort of explanation. Thanks a lot. Smiley

I don't believe Antonio ever got an answer to his question.  Does anyone have an answer to this?

When Jas gets back from vacation he'll be able to explain it better than anyone.
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« Reply #74 on: August 25, 2009, 08:30:59 PM »

I'd like to ask a question. This is probably not the right topic for it, but since we don't really have a place for this sort of question I'll still try here.

Well, I'm certainly not an expert in voting systems, but this has always interested me, so that I tried to research about that and now I know the basics. But there is something I don't understand about the voting system used for this election.
The Single Transferable Vote is suppposed to be a proportionnal system, selecting the 5 people that represent better the electors. In this case, why the quota fixed to be elected is 1/6 of the total votes insteasd of 1/5 ? If you fix it at 1/6 where there are only 5 senators elected, the representativity of the elected will be just slowly higher to 5/6, whereas we could have a 100% one with an 1/5 of the votes. This clearly hurts proportionnality of the system and can be dangerous.
If there is a reason why things are so, I hope someone could explain it to me, because this issue worries me since sometimes now. I admit that I can be wrong and will accept any sort of explanation. Thanks a lot. Smiley

I don't believe Antonio ever got an answer to his question.  Does anyone have an answer to this?

When Jas gets back from vacation he'll be able to explain it better than anyone.

Why does it have to be so confusing? Do we know who won?
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