NWA Polling & Research Co. XIX

[Alexander Hamilton]

Can somebody give the terms of an anti-zombie bill?

No it's top secret.

Are you joking? I can't tell.

Clearly we haven't even begun to discuss the idea yet, so how would we have terms? I'm not even a senator yet.

Generally, you get ideas before you're elected.

How could terms be negotiated. It would be ridiculous to raise expectations for such a bill without proper Senate debate.

[Bacon King]

Well, most of the people you linked either haven't voted or haven't been around long enough to have opportunities.  Believe me, we are not new to having our party be called a party of trolls from its inception or accused of recruiting inactive people.

This isn't about trolling. This is the blatant and open recruitment of people just to get their votes when you need it. I don't see how my numerous links don't prove that the RPP has a huge "zombie" element.

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These four were active posters before joining Atlasia. They may have been recruited to join but they didn't join the forum just to join the RPP. It's only that sort of poster I have a problem with, and those are the people who I linked to above. Besides, I don't think anyone ever labelled any of those guys as the sorts of drone voters I'm talking about. Daniel Adams I don't really remember, but I think it was obvious from the start he was serious about getting involved. I also don't remember anyone talking about him. As for Hamilton, people talk about him, yes, but that's just because he's been so creepy knowing so much of Atlasia's history that everyone thinks/thought he was a double account.

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What is your definition of "zombie reform" and what standards do you want to place? If you are serious about this I know I could support it, along with much of the JCP. Just realize that if such a bill was genuine it would notably kick out the sorts of people like the dozen or so RPP members I linked to earlier.

[Rowan]

Can somebody give the terms of an anti-zombie bill?

No it's top secret.

Are you joking? I can't tell.

Clearly we haven't even begun to discuss the idea yet, so how would we have terms? I'm not even a senator yet.

Generally, you get ideas before you're elected.

Obviously there a few ideas to consider(stricter posting requirements, etc.) but nothing concrete.

[bgwah]

The anti-"zombie" bigots have never come up with a good solution, they merely whine.

I also laugh at the notion that my party engages in the use of "zombie voters" more than the RPP does. Get back to me when we start asking newbies to spam their way to 50 posts just to vote for us.

[Lief 🗽]

"Zombie reform" is stupid. Having elections where only 30-40 people vote is not worth feeling good about how pure and active we all are. This has and always will be an election sim. Just like in the real world not every single voter is an elected official or a journalist or an avid politico, the same is true of Atlasia.

[Bacon King]

Honestly, though, I think "zombie reform" would be great for preventing things like this:

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. AHDuke (write-in)
4. Marokai Blue
5. Franzl

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Marokai Blue
5. Franzl

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Marokai Blue
5. Franzl

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Fritz
5. Marokai Blue

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Franzl
5. Afleitch
6. Marokai Blue
7. Fritz

1) RowanBrandon
2) SPC
3) Write in: AHDuke
4) Marokai Blue
5) afleitch
6) Franz
7) Write in: Alexander Hamilton

Hey look, six people that joined both the forum and Atlasia at the same time, who each have around the same amount of posts and are all voting exactly the same way. I'm sure they'll be really active posters and I bet they weren't recruited at all!!!

Seriously, this sh**t ruins the fun of the game.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Honestly, though, I think "zombie reform" would be great for preventing things like this:

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. AHDuke (write-in)
4. Marokai Blue
5. Franzl

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Marokai Blue
5. Franzl

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Marokai Blue
5. Franzl

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Fritz
5. Marokai Blue

1. RowanBrandon
2. SPC
3. Write-in: AHDuke
4. Franzl
5. Afleitch
6. Marokai Blue
7. Fritz

1) RowanBrandon
2) SPC
3) Write in: AHDuke
4) Marokai Blue
5) afleitch
6) Franz
7) Write in: Alexander Hamilton

Hey look, six people that joined both the forum and Atlasia at the same time, who each have around the same amount of posts and are all voting exactly the same way. I'm sure they'll be really active posters and I bet they weren't recruited at all!!!

Seriously, this sh**t ruins the fun of the game.

Only the top three are the same.

[Bacon King]

Haha, that doesn't make my point any less valid at all.

[Rowan]

Haha, that doesn't make my point any less valid at all.

Well, I think it kinda disproves that there was copy/pasting going on.

[Vepres]

"Zombie reform" is stupid. Having elections where only 30-40 people vote is not worth feeling good about how pure and active we all are. This has and always will be an election sim. Just like in the real world not every single voter is an elected official or a journalist or an avid politico, the same is true of Atlasia.

Well said Mr. President.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Let's just stop the bickering. I don't think it matters whether azmagic has 90 posts taht are analytical and insightful and votes for candidates with views like him and BRTD has 45000 posts about DudeFest and votes for candidates with views like him. None of it really matters, as long as it is legal.

[Bacon King]

Let's just stop the bickering. I don't think it matters whether azmagic has 90 posts taht are analytical and insightful and votes for candidates with views like him and BRTD has 45000 posts about DudeFest and votes for candidates with views like him. None of it really matters, as long as it is legal.

Lol, can't you see the difference?

BRTD is a poster on this forum, who votes in Atlasia as a hobby. This is what Atlasia was created for; not so everyone could slave over an imaginary country but so people could have fun running against each other in elections and stuff. Azmagic, in contrast, is the exact opposite- he was obviously recruited to this forum for the sole purpose of giving your party an extra vote. This fact is so obvious that anyone who denies it is either naive or a liar. And I never made any claim that it's illegal, just that it ruins the game completely. What fun is Atlasia if it's just going to be swamped with a bunch of people nobody knows who just show up to get a specific political party into more offices? It's just horrible taste and in the long run it will kill the game for everybody.

[DownWithTheLeft]

The advent of the RPP saved this game, its hard to dispute that

[Bacon King]

The return to a party structure did which you guys kind of caused did, yeah, but that doesn't mean you won't also be the ones to kill it.

[DownWithTheLeft]

The return to a party structure did which you guys kind of caused did, yeah, but that doesn't mean you won't also be the ones to kill it.

The only thing that could kill Atlasia is what doomed it prior to the RPP, liberals outnumbering conservatives 3 and 4 to 1.  Now that its only about 60/40 that's what is keeping the game interesting

[Bacon King]

The return to a party structure did which you guys kind of caused did, yeah, but that doesn't mean you won't also be the ones to kill it.

The only thing that could kill Atlasia is what doomed it prior to the RPP, liberals outnumbering conservatives 3 and 4 to 1.  Now that its only about 60/40 that's what is keeping the game interesting

There's nothing interesting about floods of zombies registering and voting together but never really being a part of the game.

[DownWithTheLeft]

The return to a party structure did which you guys kind of caused did, yeah, but that doesn't mean you won't also be the ones to kill it.

The only thing that could kill Atlasia is what doomed it prior to the RPP, liberals outnumbering conservatives 3 and 4 to 1.  Now that its only about 60/40 that's what is keeping the game interesting

There's nothing interesting about floods of zombies registering and voting together but never really being a part of the game.

You and others keep saying that, but as I pointed out we've had plenty of people branded with that label who have gone to great things.  Most who haven't have left and voted once or never voted

[Alexander Hamilton]

The return to a party structure did which you guys kind of caused did, yeah, but that doesn't mean you won't also be the ones to kill it.

The only thing that could kill Atlasia is what doomed it prior to the RPP, liberals outnumbering conservatives 3 and 4 to 1.  Now that its only about 60/40 that's what is keeping the game interesting

There's nothing interesting about floods of zombies registering and voting together but never really being a part of the game.

Those people post in this board way more than Flyers, Sensei, etc. Give it up, please.

[Хahar 🤔]

Flyers, Sensei, and BRTD have all been Senators.

Just putting that out there.

[Rowan]

Flyers, Sensei, and BRTD have all been Senators.

Just putting that out there.

What about px75?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Flyers, Sensei, and BRTD have all been Senators.

Just putting that out there.

Yes. And have since done nothing worthwhile related to Atlasia. Or non-worthwhile, for that matter. At least Al comes around spewing crap that no one takes seriously.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Flyers, Sensei, and BRTD have all been Senators.

Just putting that out there.

What about px75?

     Or Holmes or unempprof or Daniel Z or probably a dozen others.

[Хahar 🤔]

At least Al comes around spewing crap that no one takes seriously.

You're mistaken in that regard.

[Alexander Hamilton]

At least Al comes around spewing crap that no one takes seriously.

You're mistaken in that regard.

The Rag?

[Хahar 🤔]

At least Al comes around spewing crap that no one takes seriously.

You're mistaken in that regard.

The Rag?

Clearly satirical, and marked as such. Reading comprehension does wonders.