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« on: August 12, 2009, 10:56:01 PM »
« edited: August 13, 2009, 02:31:24 AM by Mechman »

Alot like the other lists, except in this one you make alternate election maps:
Here are a few of mine:

1840:


Daniel Webster (MA)/John Tyler (VA) (Whig) 175 evs 51.34% pv
Richard M. Johnson (KY)/James K. Polk (TN) (Democratic) 119 evs 46.68% pv
James G. Birney (NY)/Thomas Earle (PA) (Liberty) 1.98%

1844:


Martin Van Buren (NY)/John Fairfield (ME) (Democratic) 207 evs 53.86% pv
Daniel Webster (MA)/John Tyler (VA) (Whig) 68 evs 46.14% pv

Martin Van Buren's Free Soil stances helps him steal alot of the anti-slavery vote away from the Whig party, who were looked upon as unfavorable after the extremist term of Webster.

1848:


Martin Van Buren (NY)/John Fairfield (ME) (Democratic) 274 evs 59.46% pv
Winfield Scott (NJ)/Millard Fillmore (NY) (Whig) 16 evs 40.54% pv

In the biggest electoral victory since James Monroe in 1820, Van Buren sweeps every state except Kentucky and Rhode Island.

1852:


Stephen Douglas (IL)/Jefferson Davis (MS) 157 evs 47.25% pv
Sam Houston (TX)/Millard Fillmore (NY) (Whig) 139 evs 46.55% pv
John Parker Hale (NH)/George Washington Julian (IN) (Free Soil) 6.2% pv

The Whigs' last hurrah. The selection of Texas Senator Sam Houston helps them capture quite a few independent voters and abolitionists disillusioned by the Democratic choice of the pro slavery Douglas/Davis ticket.

1856:


John C. Fremont (CA)/Abraham Lincoln (IL) (Republican) 176 evs 36.08% pv
Stephen Douglas (IL)/Jefferson Davis (MS) (Democratic) 60 evs 33.68% pv
Millard Fillmore (NY)/Andrew Donelson (TN) (Know Nothing) 60 evs 30.24% pv

Whig Party dissolves due to infighting. Anti-slavery dissidents from the Whig Party and the Democratic Party band together and form the Republican Party who has it as one of it's goals "the complete and total abolition of slavery" along with a pro business platform.
The Know Nothing Party is full of former Whigs who are advocates of a protectionist economic policy, but have no particular stance on Immigration. John C. Fremont wins the votes of the North and thus the election while Fillmore and Douglas split the South.

1860:


John C. Fremont (CA)/Abraham Lincoln (IL) (Republican) 168 evs 52.85% pv
Andrew Johnson (TN)/Horatio Seymour (NY) (Democratic) 74 evs 47.15% pv

After the Civil War begins in late 1859, the American people once again put their trust behind John Fremont to keep the Union safe.
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 02:13:13 AM »

1864:


Abraham Lincoln (IL)/Ulysses S. Grant (OH) (Republican) 118 evs 50.35% pv
Thomas H. Seymour (CT)/George B. McClelland (NJ) (Democratic) 115 evs 49.65% pv
A very surprisingly strong showing from the Democratic ticket of Congressman Thomas H. Seymour and Union General George B. McClelland due to the unpopularity of Abraham Lincoln (who suspended habeus corpus after the unexpected death of President John Fremont who died from a stomach virus).

1868:


Ulysses S. Grant (OH)/Schuyler Colfax (IN) (Republican) 150 evs 50.78% pv
Horatio Seymour (NY)/Thomas Ewing Jr. (OH) (Democratic) 144 evs 49.22% pv

Another very close election, due to the unpopularity of Reconstruction among the general populace.

1872:


Benjamin G. Brown (MO)/Andrew G. Curtin (PA) (Liberal Republican) 220 evs 53.12% pv
Schuyler Colfax (IN)/John F. Lewis (VA) (Republican) 146 evs 46.58%

The unpopular Radical Republicans are finally kicked out of the White House as the Liberal Republicans take over the White House. Months after the election the different wings of the Republican Party would disband and it would become one once more.

1876:


Benjamin G. Brown (MO)/Andrew G. Curtin (PA) (Republican) 215 evs 51.86% pv
Samuel J. Tilden (NY)/Thomas A. Hendricks (IN) (Democratic) 154 evs 46.98% pv
James B. Weaver (IA)/Benjamin G. Chambers (TX) (Greenback) 1.16% pv

Popularity and lack of differences between the liberal Republican Benjamin G. Brown and the Bourbon Democrat Samuel J. Tilden results in a comfortable victory for Brown/Curtin.

1880:


Andrew G. Curtin (PA)/Blanche K. Bruce (MS) (Republican) 187 evs 47.79%pv
Winfield S. Hancock (PA)/Thomas A. Hendricks (IN) (Democratic) 182 evs 47.69%pv
James B. Weaver (IA)/Benjamin G. Chambers (TX) (Greenback) 4.52%pv

Curtin's choice of the US Senator Bruce is very controversial and arguably made the race alot closer than most people anticipated. Little did people know that in a few months, Bruce would be their very first African American president.

1884:


Grover Cleveland (NY)/Thomas A. Hendricks (IN) (Democratic) 346 evs 56.78% pv
James G. Blaine (ME)/George F. Edmunds (VT) (Republican) 55 evs 39.7% pv
John St. Johns (KS)/William Daniel (MD) (Prohibition) 1.98% pv
Benjamin Butler (MA)/Absalom West (MS) (Greenback) 1.54% pv

Thanks to a recession and public disapproval of President Bruce the Bourbon Democrat Grover Cleveland wins a landslide election to the presidency.
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 04:21:16 AM »
« Edited: August 26, 2009, 06:53:08 PM by Mechman »

1888:


Grover Cleveland (NY)/Adlai Stevenson I (IL) (Democratic) 361 evs 60.34% pv
William B. Allison (IN)/Russel A. Alger (MI) (Republican) 40 evs 36.75% pv
Clinton B. Fisk (NJ)/John A. Brooks (MO) (Prohibition) 1.7% pv
Alson J. Streeter (IL)/Charles E. Cunningham (AR) (Union Labor) 1.21% pv

After 4 years of presiding over a booming economy, Grover Cleveland is elected in the biggest electoral landslide since Martin Van Buren in 1848.

1892:


Adlai E. Stevenson I (IL)/Arthur Gorman (MD) (Democratic) 328 evs 43.5% pv
James G. Blaine (ME)/William McKinley (OH) (Republican) 78 evs 37.8% pv
James B. Weaver (IA)/James G. Field (VA) (Populist) 38 evs 18.7% pv

Stevenson wins a comfortable victory thanks to a strong Populist Party ticket that steals alot of Republican votes and the Cleveland legacy.

1896:


William J. Bryan (NE)/Arthur Sewall (ME) (Democratic) 229 evs 36.95% pv
William McKinley (OH)/Garret Hobart (NJ) (Republican) 117 evs 36.75% pv
John G. Carlisle (KY)/William L. Wilson (VA) (National Democrat) 101 evs 23.2% pv
Joshua Levering (MD)/Hale Johnson (IL) (Prohibition) 0.8% pv
Charles Horatio Matchett (NY)/Matthew Maguire (NJ) (Socialist Labor) 2.3%

One of the closest elections ever in terms of popular vote, different story electoral vote wise. Bryan capitalizes on the growing populist movement and helps win the third Democratic presidency in a row. However, lots of people go to the National Democratic Party after Bryan abandones the traditional Democratic laissez faire stance.

1900:


William McKinley (OH)/Thomas B. Reed (ME) (Republican) 325 evs 53.43% pv
William J. Bryan (NE)/Thomas E. Watson (GA) (Democratic) 122 evs 43.57% pv
Eugene Victor Debbs (IN)/Job Harriman (CA) (Social-Democratic) 1.5% pv
Wharton Barker (PA)/Ignatius L. Donnelly (MN) (Populist) 0.9% pv
John G. Woolley (IL)/Henry B. Metcalf (OH) (Prohibition) 0.7% pv

The failure of the Bryan administration brings the White House back into Republican control for the first time since 1884.

1904:


William H. Taft (OH)/Charles W. Fairbanks (IN) (Republican) 356 evs 57.43% pv
William Randolph Hearst (NY)/Henry Davis (WV) (Democratic) 120 evs 35.87%
Eugene V. Debbs (IN)/Benjamin Hanford (NY) (Socialist) 4.5% pv
Silas Comfort Swallow (PA)/George W. Carroll (TX) (Prohibition) 1.4% pv
Thomas E. Watson (GA)/Thomas E. Tibbles (NE) (Populist) 0.8 pv

The line holds study for the Republicans in 1904 as they gain three more states to their electoral count.

1908:


William H. Taft (OH)/James S. Sherman (NY) (Republican) 356 evs 52.32% pv
John A. Johnson (MN)/John W. Kern (IN) (Democratic) 127 evs 41.88% pv
Eugene V. Debs (IN)/Benjamin Hanford (NY) (Socialist) 3.2% pv
Eugene W. Chafin (IL)/Aaron S. Watkins (OH) (Prohibition) 1.5% pv
Thomas L. Hisgen (MA)/John Temple Graves (GA) (Independence) 1.1% pv

Thanks to third party overkill and the success of the Taft administration, the GOP sees it's third straight electoral victory.

1912:


Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) 270 evs 32.32% pv
Woodrow Wilson (NJ)/Oscar W. Underwood (AL) (Democratic) 212 evs 31.18% pv
Charles W. Fairbanks (IN)/Nicolas M. Butler (NY) (Republican) 49 evs 27.2% pv
Eugene V. Debbs (IN)/Emil Seidel (WI) (Socialist) 7.2% pv
Eugene W. Chafin (IL)/Aaron S. Watkins (OH) (Prohibition) 2.1% pv

Teddy Roosevelt, on the new Progressive Party ticket, manages to beat the two party system with both a plurality of the popular as well as the electoral vote. His win would usher in the Era of the Three Party system.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 05:37:47 AM »

Interesting.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 05:41:34 AM »

I've just mastered the code input for the maps. Believe me, the next few entries (with the Progressive Party a major party, thus the Three Party System) will be pretty crazy.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 05:46:16 AM »

I've just mastered the code input for the maps. Believe me, the next few entries (with the Progressive Party a major party, thus the Three Party System) will be pretty crazy.

Yeah, sure. But I love this sort of maps ! Wink
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 06:58:24 AM »

1916:


Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) 271 evs 32.56% pv
Charles Evans Hughes (NY)/Henry Ford (MI) (Republican) 146 evs 32.12% pv
Thomas R. Marshall (IN)/Oscar W. Underwood (AL) (Democratic) 114 evs 32.32% pv
Allan Louis Benson (NY)/George R. Kirkpatrick (NJ) (Socialist) 2.1% pv
James Franklin Hanly (IN)/Ira Landrith (TN) (Prohibition) 0.9% pv

Although he won a comfortable electoral re-election, Roosevelt and his two closest opponents all scored with a .44% margin, one of the closest popular vote margins since the emergence of the Three Party system.

1920:


Warren G. Harding (OH)/Calvin Coolidge (MA) (Republican) 413 evs 41.44% pv
James M. Cox (OH)/Al Smith (NY) (Democratic) 70 evs 29.1% pv
Hiram Johnson (CA)/Burton K. Wheeler (MT) (Progressive) 48 evs 24.56% pv
Eugene V. Debbs (IN)/Seymour Stedman (IL) (Socialist) 2.7% pv
Parely Parker Christensen (IL)/Maximillian Sebastian Hayes (OH) (Farmer-Labor) 1.3% pv
Aaron S. Watkins (IN)/David L. Covin (NY) (Prohibition) 0.6% pv
James E. Ferguson (TX)/William J. Hough (NY) (American) 0.2% pv
William W. Cox (MO)/August Gilhaus (NY) (Socialist Labor) 0.1% pv

Warren G. Harding gets elected on a mandate after the economic downturn that takes place during the last two years under Progressive dominance. Democrats have entered the "regional party" status at the moment.

1924:


Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Frank O. Lowden (IA) (Republican) 445 evs 56.21% pv
Oscar W. Underwood (AL)/Charles W. Bryan (NE) (Democratic) 64 evs 26.45% pv
Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (WI)/Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY) (Progressive) 22 evs 17.14% pv
Other: .2% pv

Calvin Coolidge is elected to his first full term (he assumed the presidency after Warren Harding died from an illness in 1923) with one of the largest electoral wins (since the implementation of the Three Party System), owed mostly to the economic prosperity that came under Republican leadership.

1928:


Herbert Hoover (KS)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) 408 evs 53.21% pv
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Nellie T. Ross (WY) (Progressive) 62 evs 25.59% pv
Al Smith (NY)/Alben W. Barkley (KY) (Democratic) 61 evs 19.7% pv
Norman Thomas (NY)/James H. Maurer (PA) (Socialist)1.0% pv
William Z. Foster (IL)/Benjamin Gitlow (NY) (Communist) 0.3% pv

Herbert Hoover wins a comfortable victory on the curtails of Calvin Coolidge. The fortunes of the Democratic and Progressives flip flop on this election, as the charismatic Franklin Roosevelt (and VP choice Nellie Ross, first female running for VP from Wyoming) helps them pick up victories in traditionally Republican states like Wyoming and Maryland.

1932:


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) 403 evs 53.24% pv
John Nance Garner (TX)/Albert Ritchie (MD) (Democratic) 73 evs 24.89% pv
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charlie Curtis (KS) (Republican) 55 evs 18.97%
Norman Thomas (NY)/James H. Maurer (PA) (Socialist) 2.4% pv
William Z. Foster (IL)/James W. Ford (AL) (Communist) 0.4% pv
William P. Upshaw (GA)/Frank S. Regan (IL) (Prohibition) 0.1% pv
William Hope Harvey (AR)/Frank Hemenway (WA) (Liberty)

The Great Depression occurs and helps give the Progressive Franklin Delano Roosevelt the party's first Mandate Landslide election. If the Progressives can't get the nation behind it's social policies, it looks like it can get it behind it's economic policies. Teddy Roosevelt's true revenge on the two party system had just begun.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2009, 07:17:00 AM »

I'm going to be as orginal as Mechman here, but:

2002:



Gore moved his ass and shown up in Tennessee

Vice President Al Gore of Tennessee/Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut (D) - 278 ev
Governor George W. Bush of Texas/Former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney of Wyoming (R) - 260 ev


1972:



McGovern does little better

President Richard Nixon of California/Vice President Spiro Agnew of Maryland (R) - 513 ev
Senator George McGovern of South Dakota/Former Ambassador Sargent Shriver of Maryland (D) - 25 ev
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2009, 07:21:29 AM »

1932:


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) 403 evs 53.24% pv
John Nance Garner (TX)/Albert Ritchie (MD) (Democratic) 73 evs 24.89% pv
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charlie Curtis (KS) (Republican) 55 evs 18.97%
Norman Thomas (NY)/James H. Maurer (PA) (Socialist) 2.4% pv
William Z. Foster (IL)/James W. Ford (AL) (Communist) 0.4% pv
William P. Upshaw (GA)/Frank S. Regan (IL) (Prohibition) 0.1% pv
William Hope Harvey (AR)/Frank Hemenway (WA) (Liberty)

The Great Depression occurs and helps give the Progressive Franklin Delano Roosevelt the party's first Mandate Landslide election. If the Progressives can't get the nation behind it's social policies, it looks like it can get it behind it's economic policies. Teddy Roosevelt's true revenge on the two party system had just begun.

Really great. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 11:14:48 AM »

1992 : Perot never drops out





Weaker Clinton win.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 02:37:30 PM »

Ok here is a quick list based on if Dole won the 1996 Election

1996


Robert Dole/Jack Kemp: 270 Electoral Votes
William Clinton/Albert Gore: 268 Electoral Votes
Ross Perot/Pat Choate: 0 Electoral Votes

2000: The 43rd President due to his age declines to seek a second term. Although the adminstration is fairly popular, Many have a feeling that the election is still going to be fairly close. Vice President Kemp picks African American Congressman J.C. Watts as his running mate while former Vice President Gore wins the nomination and picks Governor Jeanne Shaheen as his running mate. The race is really about the two history making Vice Presidential picks as watching Kemp debate Gore was like watching Paint Dry lol.



Jack Kemp/J.C. Watts: 286 Electoral Votes
Albert Gore/Jeanne Shaheen: 252 Electoral Votes

2004: Jack Kemp comes to office as the nation 44th President to find a Congress racked in Gridlock and with many of his Domestic Reforms thwarted by many social conservatives within his own party. 9/11 still happens essentially the same as IOTL, and Kemp's poll numbers rise due to the "Rally around the Flag effect" during the course of the War on Terrorisim. Yet by the 2004 elections, Americans had grown weary of Kemp's handling of the war as the death toll increased due to the US Invasion into Pakistan. Kemp faces a serious challenge from Conservative Governor Bill Owens of Colorado, but is barely able to clinch the nomination. In a heated contest, Senator Evan Bayh was able to clinch the nomination and continues the history making trend by making 1st term Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico his running mate, making him the nation'st 1st Hispanic Vice President. The Bayh/Richardson ticket wins on a comfortable margin.



Birch E. Bayh III/Bill Richardson: 319 Electoral Votes
Jack Kemp/J.C. Watts: 219 Electoral Votes

2008: Bayh, comes into office with a clear mandate and successfully brought the War on Terror to a close by 2007. His swift response to the Hurricane Katrina disater in 2005, NAFTA Repeal and push for Alternate Energy sources endeared him to the American people. However, the economy had signs that the economy was slowing by November of 2008 largely due to Dole/Kemp's deregualtory efforts.The Moderate-to-Conservative former Vice President Watts looses the nomination to staunch Social Conservative, former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas. Huckabee picked maverick Senator John McCain as his running mate. Bayh, due to his popularity wins in a landslide.



Birch E. Bayh III/Bill Richardson: 408 Electoral Votes
Michael Huckabee/Chuck Hagel: 130 Electoral Votes

2012: The Recession finally hit the United States by 2010, in which America suffers the worst Economic crisis since the Great Depression. Bayh's Protectioinst plolices, seem to hurting the nation's chance more than helping, and people feel nogalistic for the Kemp years. Watt's is finally able to clinch the nomination and he picks Senator Mitt Romney of Massachusetts as his running mate. On the Democratic Side, former Vice President Bill Richardson declines to run due to a possible indictment charge, allowing populist John Edwards of South Carolina to take the nomination. Edwards picks foriegn policy leaning Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts as his running mate. After a tough election, On January 20th 2013...J.C. Watts is sworn in as the nation's 1st African American and 46th President.




J.C. Watts/Mitt Romney: 308 Electoral Votes
John Edwards/John Kerry: 185 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2009, 06:37:46 PM »

1992 : Perot never drops out





Weaker Clinton win.

Very good map, but I'd switch Utah to Perot. After all, he comes IOT second there.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 03:04:23 PM »

Random idea... probably all wrong.

1944



Thomas Dewey/John Bricker (R) 51% (281 EV)
Franklin D. Roosevelt/Harry Truman (D) 48% (250 EV)

1948: Generally successful term for Dewey, who leads a centrist policy economically and does not undo the New Deal's achievements. In 1945, he too makes the decision to drop the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and he is a strong supporter of the United Nations. Southerner Richard B. Russell narrowly wins the Democratic nomination over Alben W. Barkley and Harry Truman, Roosevelt's unlucky running-mate in 1944. The conservative Bricker is dropped and replaced by Earl Warren, a moderate Republican like Dewey. Henry A. Wallace runs for the Progressive Party, which is significantly successful due to the support of many liberal Democrats such as HHH who are unhappy at the nomination of Russell.



Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren (R) 55% (356 EV)
Richard B. Russell/Harry Truman (D) 38% (175 EV)
Henry A. Wallace/Glen Taylor (P) 7% (0 EV)

1952: Dewey's second term is less successful than the first, and the US gets bogged down into a relatively unpopular war in Korea and a poor handling of the 1952 coal and steel strike. He leaves office with 40% approval ratings. The Republicans nominate the moderate-liberal Earl Warren of California in a very close battle over the leader of the conservative-isolationist wing, Robert A. Taft. He chooses Everett Dirksen as his running mate, as an appeal to Taft's supporters. The Democratic nomination is deadlocked between Estes Kefauver, W. Averell Harriman and Robert S. Kerr. In the end, J. William Fulbright of Arkansas became the compromise candidate, but the party suffered another liberal dissension when delegates walked out opposing the nomination of "yet another Southerner". The Progressives, who appeared dead in the 1950 mid-terms, re-appeared and nominated Senator Hubert H. Humphrey for President with W. Averell Harriman as his running mate. The Progressives clearly endorsed civil rights, and Warren also supported civil rights.



Earl Warren/Everett Dirksen (R) 48% (310 EV)
J. William Fulbright/Adlai Stevenson (D) 41% (210 EV)
Hubert H. Humphrey/W. Averell Harriman (P) 11% (11 EV)

1956: President Earl Warren led a moderate policy, much similar to his predecessor. He believed in laissez-faire economics. Under his Presidency, significant progress was made in civil rights in the South, despite strong Democratic resistance. His foreign policy resembles that of Eisenhower irl. He was easily re-nominated in 1956 and even kept Everett Dirksen as his running mate. The Democrats nominated Estes Kefauver and he chose Adlai Stevenson (again) as his running mate, but the Democratic platform remained ambiguous on civil rights.



Estes Kefauver/Adlai Stevenson (D) 51% (276 EV)
Earl Warren/Everett Dirksen (R) 47% (255 EV)
Others 2%

I might continue this...
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 03:42:30 PM »

For which reason does Warren lose his reelection ?
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 04:04:50 PM »

For which reason does Warren lose his reelection ?

Poorer economy than in real life, and some sort of civil rights backlash in the South.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2009, 09:03:56 PM »

1960: Kefauver was unable to make any significant progress regarding civil rights, partly due to his ambiguous personal stance and because of a strong Dixiecrat caucus preventing movement on the issue. The Democrats were hurt by the 1958 recession and the Republicans won the Senate and House in the mid-terms. In foreign policy, he continued the anti-communist policies. In 1960, the Democrats re-nominated Estes Kefauver and efforts to add a plank supporting full civil rights for blacks and de-segregation failed once again. The Republicans nominated New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, another representative of the rising progressive Republican current. He chose Richard Nixon of California as his running mate. Many liberal Democrats, the base of the old Progressive Party, from the Northeast and Upper Midwest supported Rockefeller over Kefauver... abandoned by a faction which carried him to victory, Kefauver's defeat was important.



Nelson Rockefeller/Richard Nixon (R) 53% (351 EV)
Estes Kefauver/Adlai Stevenson (D) 46% (186 EV)

1964: Rocky had a very successful first term: he passed civil rights legislation, brought down advisor numbers in Vietnam (like JFK had planned in RL), introduced the US' first environmental protection program, stepped up the US' involvement in world organizations, and had good relations with organized labour. He was criticized on Cuba (similar policy to JFK) and by Dixiecrats on civil rights, but his major civil rights achievements helped bring a lot of Democrats firmly into the Republican column... the Republicans were now the progressive/liberal party of civil rights, the Democrats being a pitiful 'Southern' party. In 1964, the Democrats (with much fewer Northern Democrats o/c) nominated George Wallace for President and Daniel Brewster as Vice President. Rockefeller faced strong opposition from Barry Goldwater, but won out in the end. Wallace moderated his segregationist rhetoric and appealed to workers in the South and other regions a bit more.



Nelson Rockefeller/Richard Nixon (R) 63% (461 EV)
George Wallace/Daniel Brewster (D) 36% (77 EV)

Maybe it's gone off the deep end...


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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 05:39:11 AM »

Great scenario. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 09:11:44 AM »
« Edited: August 18, 2009, 02:10:40 PM by Historico »

Ok here is a new list...The Duke Wins



Michael S. Dukakis/Lloyd M. Bentsen:  272 Electoral Votes
George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle: 266 Electoral Votes

1988: Mike Dukakis wins the 1988 General Election against Vice President George H.W. Bush. There is no "snoopy" Tank disaster, and no Kitty Dukakis rape debate question. However, Dukakis being Dukakis only wins an ridcuously narrow victory. Dukakis actually has a fairly successful first term, as he was able to get a majority of his Domestic Legislation passed with a Democratic Congress, A Swift end to the Persian Gulf Conflict, and he provided a major economic stimulus package to help lift the nation out of the 1991-1992 Recession.



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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 09:42:45 AM »

1992: President Dukakis along with his new running mate Representative Dick Gephardt of Missouri(Vice President Bentsen declines to seek another term due to his age and declining health) was able to pull off a comfortable victory over the Dole/Kirkpatrick Ticket of 1992. However, Dukakis unpopular Interventionalist poliices in Africa, Haiti, and Bosnia, as well as a new Republican Majorities in both houses in 94 made for a tought budget showdown in 1995.



Michael S. Dukakis/Dick Gephardt: 336 Electoral Votes
Bob Dole/Jeane Kirkpatrick: 195 Electoral Votes
Ross Perot/Jack Kemp: 7 Electoral Votes

1996: The unpopular Dukakis adminstration pretty much doomed Vice President Gephardt's chance's at winning the '96 election. He chose the popular former Governor Bob Casey of Pennsylvania as his running mate to help the Democrats remain viable in the rust belt. On the GOP side, the Southern Moral Majority finally had their way, with the nomination of former Governor Caroll A. Campbell Jr. of South Carolina picked Senator Pete Wilson of California to balance the ticket. The Campbell/Wilson defeats Gephardt/Casey in a comfortable victory



Carroll A. Campbell Jr./Pete Wilson: 305 Electoral Votes
Dick Gephardt/Bob Casey: 203 Electoral Votes
Lowell Weicker Jr./Dick Lamm: 30 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 09:45:41 AM »

1968: Generally successful second term, though there is a recession in 1966-1968 which hurts the Republicans in the mid-terms. No major hippie movement since there is a lot less US troops in Vietnam than IRL. Democrats nominated George Smathers for President and Stephen Young for Vice President. The Republican nomination was a close matter between VP Richard Nixon, the more conservative candidate, and George Romney. Romney eventually prevailed and chose Jacob K. Javits for Vice President. The conservative wing of the Republican Party, which opposed economic intervention (supported by both the dominant Rockefeller Republicans and most Democrats) walked out in protest and nominated James Rhodes (R-OH) for President and Ronald Reagan (D-CA) for Vice President. The Independent candidacy attacked communism, promised to actively fight communism abroad (in Vietnam), and supported laissez-faire economics.



George Smathers/Stephen Young (D) 50% (346 EV)
George Romney/Jacob K. Javits (R) 41% (192 EV)
John Rhodes/Ronald Reagan (I) 9% (0 EV)

1972: Smathers had a mediocre first term, trying to undo most 'costly' social reforms of the Rockefeller administration. He was also hurt by a continued economic recession and the failure of his stimulus efforts. Abroad, he rabidly opposed the spread of communism and authorized secret missions to aid the struggling South Vietnamese government, such as bombing raids and sending 'advisors' to help the poor-quality ARVN. By doing so, he angered the liberal Democrats who had supported him reluctantly in 1968. Smathers won the Democratic nomination, despite being opposed by George McGovern, one of the remaining liberal Democrats. He dropped Young from the ticket in favour of Henry M. Jackson. The Republican nomination opposed polar opposites: the economic conservative John Ashbrook and the representative of the liberal wing, Pete McCloskey. In the end, Ashbrook carried the day very narrowly and his win was very contested. He chose John Tower as his running mate. This proved the final straw for the liberal Republicans who walked out and nominated Pete McCloskey as a "Progressive Party" candidate with Mark Hatfield as his running-mate.



George Smathers/Henry M. Jackson (D) 46% (466 EV)

John Ashbrook/John Tower (R) 35% (72 EV)
Pete McCloskey/Mark Hatfield (I) 19% (0 EV)

1976: An unpopular President had been re-elected due to massive vote splitting. Smathers is hurt by his poor policies and his poor response to the oil crisis. In terms of foreign policy, his Vietnam policy is destroyed by the fall of Saigon in 1975 and his whole foreign policy is destroyed. The 1974 mid-terms prove brutal and he leaves office with a 30% approval rating. Despite this, his VP, Henry M. Jackson wins the Democratic nomination and chooses Terry Sanford as his running-mate. The Republicans nominated a darkhorse liberal, Charles Mathias. McCloskey had been hurt by his Presidential run in 1972. Mathias chose Richard Schweiker, a moderate, as his running mate.



Charles Mathias/Richard Schweiker (R) 56% (447 EV)
Henry M. Jackson/Terry Sanford (D) 42% (91 EV)
Others 2%
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 10:47:22 AM »

2000: Carrol Campbell's 1st term proves to be a very successful, quiet first term as he brought back many of the conservative policies enacted in the '80's with Reagan. However he is diagonossed with Alzhemier's disease in late 1999, forcing him to abandon his plans to seek a second term. Vice President Wilson easily wins the nomination, and selects Social Conservative Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas as his running mate. On the Democratic Side, liberal Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey wins the nomination and selects former Governor Lil 'Jim Folsom of Alabama as his running mate. The Wilson/Huckabee ticket wins in a landslide in the popular vote but fails to break the 400 Electoral vote barrier due to a strong third place perfromane by Ventura/Nader on the Reform ticket.



Pete Wilson/Mike Huckabee: 345 Electoral Votes
Bill Bradley/Jim Folsom: 177 Electoral Votes
Jesse Ventura/Ralph Nader: 20 Electoral Votes

2004: Pete Wilson's 1st term in office proved to be no where near as quiet as his predecessor's. The September 11th attacks just as they did IOTL, only Wilson rapidly expands the War on Terror focusing both on Afghanistan, Pakistan while keepin a chilly relationship with Saddam in Iraq. This success of the War gaurantee's Wilson, despite being in his early 70's, a second term and 12 years of GOP Adminstration. The Democrats run a sacrifical lamb candidate in Senator John Edwards for their Nominee. Wilson breaks the 400 electoral vote barrier against the Edwards/Shaheen and Nader/Beaty tickets.




Pete Wilson/Mike Huckabee: 403 Electoral Votes
John Edwards/Jeanne Shaheen: 132 Electoral Votes
Ralph Nader/Warren Beaty: 3 Electoral Votes

2008: President Pete Wilson's 2nd term does not go swimmingly, his slow reaction to the Katrina Aftermath in New Orleans, Worsening violence along the Afghanistan/Pakistan Border, and the Economic Crash of 2008 dooms Vice President Huckabee's chances at winning the election,makes a history making choice in Senator Mel Martinez of Florida as as his running mate. On the Democratic side, Change is the national theme of the campaign, as Dukakis Democrat...6th year Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts is able to clinch the nomination. Patrick selects Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia for his foriegn policy expeirence as well to balance the ticket. The nation elects it's first Black President with a strong showing in the electoral college.



Deval Patrick/Sam Nunn: 366 Electoral Votes
Mike Huckabee/Mel Martinez: 124 Electoral Votes
Ron Paul/Sarah Palin: 48 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2009, 01:41:50 PM »

1980: Charles Mathias has a good term, with a moderate policy at home and abroad. He opens an era of detente with the USSR and the Communist block (SALT II), he builds on the successful social programs of the Rockefeller years, thereby expanding government. His social liberalism and secular values anger Christian conservatives in the party, and his big government policy also hurts him with conservatives within the party such as John Ashbrook. In his later years, he is hurt by a poor economic outlook and the Democrats make important gains in the 1978 mid-terms. The Democratic race in 1980 sees the triumph of a darkhorse, Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia who chooses Dale Bumpers as his running mate. The Republicans re-nominate Mathias. Ronald Reagan enters the field as a small-government conservatives opposed to the populist Carter/Bumpers ticket and the liberal Mathias/Schweiker. He chooses John Rarick as his running mate.

NM decided the election in Mathias' favour. Ironically, though, both the President and VP lost their home states...



Charles Mathias/Richard Schweiker (R) 47% (272 EV)
James E. Carter/Dale Bumpers (D) 46% (266 EV)
Ronald Reagan/John Rarick (I) 7% (0 EV)

1984: Mathias struggled with the economy in his second term and he refused to cut taxes like many Democrats wished. His policy of detente with the communist block was contested by many Democrats and he was hurt by the growth of communist movements in 'America's backyard'. In 1984, the Democrats nominated Ronald Reagan for President (narrowly beating Jimmy Carter) and Dale Bumpers got the Veep spot again (to please the Southern-populistic wing of the party). The Republicans went with Illinois Senator John B. Anderson and Gary Hart (a former Democrat) for VP. Reagan promised an assertive foreign policy, small government and classical liberal economics. His small government hurt him with big government supporters and populists in many areas of the country.



Ronald Reagan/Dale Bumpers (D) 51% (275 EV)
John B. Anderson/Gary Hart (R) 48% (263 EV)
Others 1%

1988: Reagan implements far-reaching tax cuts and leads an assertive policy vis-a-vis the Soviet Union. He helps anti-communist groups in Central and Latin America. Much like he was IRL. In 1988, the Democrats re-nominate him despite some Southern populist resistance. He dropped Bumpers in favour of Senator John Breaux of Louisiana. The Republicans nominated Gary Hart who chose Pat Lucey as his running-mate.



Ronald Reagan/John Breaux (D) 58% (414 EV)
Gary Hart/Pat Lucey (R) 41% (124 EV)
Others 1%

1992: Reagan had a decent second term, and swimmed in popularity after the successful Gulf War. However, he was hurt by scandals in his administration involving illegal deals with anti-communist rebels in Latin America and also by a major recession in 1991-1992. In the Democratic race, John Breaux narrowly defeated populist Tom Harkin of Iowa for the nomination and chose Bob Dole as his running mate. The Republicans nominated Pete Wilson for President and Paul Tsongas for Vice President. However, Ross Perot jumped into the race opposing NAFTA and party politics, and Pat Buchanan also came into the race running as a 'Conservative Party' candidate and styling himself as the "Christian conservative" choice, emphasizing his strong social conservatism.



Pete Wilson/Paul Tsongas (R) 42% (346 EV)
John Breaux/Bob Dole (D) 29% (182 EV)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I) 24% (10 EV)
Pat Buchanan/Mike Foster (Con) 5% (0 EV)

1996: Generally successful term for Pete Wilson, who leads a calm centrist policy though he raised spending, leading the Democrats to lead a big balanced budget campaign in the 1994 mid-terms, which the Republicans only narrowly win. In 1996, the Republicans re-nominated the incumbent, but Tsongas retired due to health reasons in favour of John McCain. The Democrats nominate Sam Nunn of Georgia for President and Bob Casey for Vice President. Social conservatives who see the Nunn/Casey ticket as too 'secular' convince Buchanan to run again for the Conservative Party. Ross Perot and Pat Choate run for the Reform Party.



Pete Wilson/John McCain (R) 37% (324 EV)
Sam Nunn/Bob Casey (D) 32% (207 EV)
Ross Perot/Pat Choate (Ref) 17% (7 EV)
Pat Buchanan/Mike Foster (Con) 13% (0 EV)
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke (Green) 1% (0 EV)

2000: Wilson's second term resembles that of Clinton, but more active since until 1998 he has a GOP Congress. He leaves office with a 61% approval rating. In 2000, the Democratic race opposes Governor George W. Bush of Texas (a strong social conservative with an appeal to the Christian conservative base), Sam Nunn, Bob Casey and Robert C. Smith. Nunn and Casey split the vote enough to allow Bush to carry the nomination. The Republican race opposed John McCain and Al Gore. McCain eventually won the nomination and chose Joe Lieberman as his running-mate. Bush chose Sam Nunn as his running-mate. Other candidates included Buchanan (Conservative) and Nader (Green). Nader appealed a lot to populist Democrats who liked his left-wing economic stances.



John McCain/Joseph Lieberman (R) 37% (264 EV)
George W. Bush/Bob Casey (D) 32% (274 EV)
Pat Buchanan/Ezola Foster (Con) 13% (0 EV)
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke (Green) 1% (0 EV)

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2009, 08:15:50 AM »

Gore would not be a Republican and Bush would'nt be a Democrat.  They'd stick with the family parties....
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2009, 08:21:26 AM »

Dubya is a particularly lucky man : even in timelines he manages to become president while losing the Popular vote !
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2009, 09:26:08 PM »
« Edited: August 26, 2009, 10:17:15 PM by Mechman »

1936:


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) 507 evs 59.97% pv
Newton D. Baker (OH)/Miriam Ferguson (TX) (Democratic) 17 evs 23.82% pv
Alf Landon (KS)/Stephen A. Day (OH) (Republican) 7evs 13.91% pv
William Lemke (ND)/Thomas C. O'Brien (MA) (Union) 1.8%
Norman Thomas (NY)/George A. Nelson (WI) (Socialist) 0.4%
Earl Browder (KS)/James W. Ford (NY) (Communist) 0.1% pv

Conveying a message of hope and optimism, FDR is able to score a huge electoral landslide over his opponents not seen since Grover Cleveland.

1940:


Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Progressive) 365 evs 41.21% pv
Wendell Wilkie (NY)/Arthur Vandenberg (MI) (Republican) 94 evs 30.34% pv
Millard Tydings (MD)/Louis A. Johnson (VA) (Democratic) 72 evs 28.15% pv
Norman Thomas (NY)/Maynard C. Krueger (IL) (Socialist) 0.3% pv

LaFollette's electoral and popular vote percentages, while impressive, showed the trend toward the GOP that America was drifting back toward. The South was returning to it's Democratic roots. Soon, the Progressive Supermajority would weaken and disappear. However, the Progressive force would always remain.

1944:


Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.(MA)/Alben W. Barkley (KY) (Democratic) 34.09% pv 216 evs
Thomas E. Dewey (NY)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Republican) 34.1% pv 212 evs
Henry Wallace (IA)/Glen H. Taylor (ID) (Progressive) 31.21% pv 103 evs
Norman Thomas (NY)/Darlington Hoopes (PA) (Socialist) 0.4% pv
Claude Watson (CA)/Andrew N. Johnson (KY) (Prohibition) 0.2% pv

The noninterventionist Progressive foreign policy outrages many Americans hearing about the atrocities of the German army, as well as an economic recession in 1944. Joseph P. Kennedy and Thomas E. Dewey capitalize on Robert M. LaFollette's dovish foreign policy and staunch government intervention in the economy. No electoral majority, election goes to the House (which is under Democratic dominance (34%)) and Senate (which is under Republican dominance (34%)). Progressives, seeing that any chance of getting either Wallace or Taylor is nil, either vote for Taylor or Wallace or sell their vote to the "lesser of evils". The end result is:

Senate:
The US Senate vote would be a lot easier than the House vote, due to the fact that alot of Progressives found the GOP vice president Harold Stassen to be a "progressive sympathesizing" Republican. The end result would be 60 Stassen, 31 Barkley, 7 Wallace.
Harold W. Stassen is elected as Vice President.

House:


Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. (MA) 26 states
Thomas E. Dewey (NY) 15 states
Henry Wallace (IA) 7 states

Joseph P. Kennedy by a slim majority of the House vote is elected US President. This would be the first administration since 1797 that would have a president and a vice president from separate parties. President Joseph P. Kennedy and Vice President Harold Stassen would get along famously, proving that bipartisanship is possible in the Executive Branch.

1948:

Thomas E. Dewey (NY)/Earl Warren (CA) (Republican) 283 evs 33.8% pv
Joseph P. Kennedy (MA)/Estes Kefauver (TN) (Democratic) 112 evs 28.2% pv
Glen H. Taylor (ID)/James Roosevelt (CA) (Progressive) 86 evs 29.8% pv
Strom Thurmond (SC)/Herman Talmadge (GA) (Dixiecrat) 50 evs 7.8% pv
Norman Thomas (NY)/Tucker P. Smith (MI) (Socialist) 0.3% pv
Claude Watson (CA)/Dale Learn (PA) (Prohibition) 0.1% pv

After a term of Joseph P. Kennedy's staunch interventionism as well as fracturing within the Democratic Party due to the adoption of Civil Rights into the party platform helps Thomas E. Dewey win a decent electoral victory.
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