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« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2009, 04:18:10 PM »
I had a feeling that those predicting a narrow victory for the Yes side were too stuck in the old model that says a special election hurts the gays...and not giving enough credit to the large organizational advantage of the No side.

I still have that feeling.
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« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2009, 04:21:20 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on November 03, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
I had a feeling that those predicting a narrow victory for the Yes side were too stuck in the old model that says a special election hurts the gays...and not giving enough credit to the large organizational advantage of the No side.

I still have that feeling.
I don't think your giving enough credit to the bigots in this country, who, just 20-30 years ago, were trying to vote away the rights of homosexuals.  Unfortunately these people are still around.
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« Reply #152 on: November 03, 2009, 04:28:23 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2009, 04:32:28 PM by Lunar »
Quote from: YankeeFan007 on November 03, 2009, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: Lunar on November 03, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
I had a feeling that those predicting a narrow victory for the Yes side were too stuck in the old model that says a special election hurts the gays...and not giving enough credit to the large organizational advantage of the No side.

I still have that feeling.
I don't think your giving enough credit to the bigots in this country, who, just 20-30 years ago, were trying to vote away the rights of homosexuals.  Unfortunately these people are still around.

A superior campaign in terms of GOTV and messaging is extremely meaningful in a special election.  Look at Virginia, they're going to give a huge victory to McDonnell over Deeds, who are more conservative than McCain and Obama respectively.  You have to give credit where credit is due to campaigns that know what they're doing.

I always argue this, but people who were surprised about Prop 8's success in CA doesn't realize how awful that campaign was run relative to the Yes side, [I did a few hours of work for them indirectly and I knew we would fail on election day].  The ads for the no team have been phenomenal, its messaging consistent and connective emotionally, their targeting great, and more.  The opposite is true for the Yes team.


And, of course, there's less outrage in a very secular state [Maine is one of the few states where more people say religion doesn't play a significant role in their lives] where the legislature, not the courts, legislated gay marriage.

The gays are gonna get their queerburgermarriages I firmly believe, but, as I occasionally point out, I had promised to eat my own hat if McCain did something as ridiculous as choosing Palin as his VP, so I've been wrong before.  Maybe I'm just hopeful.
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« Reply #153 on: November 03, 2009, 05:00:37 PM »
To put it in perspective, when Maine voted for the non-discrimination bill in 2005, turnout was only in the mid 40's. When they narrowly voted against the same bill in the last 90's, turn out was in the mid 30's.

The after-work and after-school voting rush will begin soon. It's 5pm.
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« Reply #154 on: November 03, 2009, 08:06:34 PM »
http://www.bangordailynews.com/electionresults.html

Results can be found here, I believe. I'm watching two of the initiatives.
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« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2009, 08:07:21 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2009, 08:09:12 PM by realisticidealist »
Polls have closed now.

First results:

No: 45 (88%)
Yes: 6 (12%)
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« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2009, 08:12:09 PM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 03, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
Polls have closed now.

First results:

No: 45 (88%)
Yes: 6 (12%)

What a great precinct that is.
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« Reply #157 on: November 03, 2009, 08:12:36 PM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 03, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
Polls have closed now.

First results:

No: 45 (88%)
Yes: 6 (12%)

I hope that it stays that way lol.
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« Reply #158 on: November 03, 2009, 08:13:08 PM »
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on November 03, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 03, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
Polls have closed now.

First results:

No: 45 (88%)
Yes: 6 (12%)

What a great precinct that is.

Stop the count.
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« Reply #159 on: November 03, 2009, 08:14:13 PM »
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« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2009, 08:24:10 PM »
REJECT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE LAW

No    1550    73.46%
Yes    560    26.54%
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« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2009, 08:33:59 PM »
Quote from: YankeeFan007 on November 03, 2009, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: Lunar on November 03, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
I had a feeling that those predicting a narrow victory for the Yes side were too stuck in the old model that says a special election hurts the gays...and not giving enough credit to the large organizational advantage of the No side.

I still have that feeling.
I don't think your giving enough credit to the bigots in this country, who, just 20-30 years ago, were trying to vote away the rights of homosexuals.  Unfortunately these people are still around.

I like how Dem4Life is an independent.
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« Reply #162 on: November 03, 2009, 08:34:00 PM »
No: 2,071 (62.97%)
Yes: 1,218 (37.03%)
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« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2009, 08:37:44 PM »
Now it's basically tied.
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« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2009, 08:39:19 PM »
Yes votes are now leading.
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« Reply #165 on: November 03, 2009, 08:39:51 PM »
Uh-oh.
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« Reply #166 on: November 03, 2009, 08:40:09 PM »
Oh noes.

Yes  5336 54.68%
No  4422 45.32%
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« Reply #167 on: November 03, 2009, 08:41:34 PM »
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 03, 2009, 08:40:09 PM
Oh noes.

Yes  5336 54.68%
No  4422 45.32%


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« Reply #168 on: November 03, 2009, 08:46:54 PM »
I best not have to delete my posts earlier in this thread
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« Reply #169 on: November 03, 2009, 08:50:00 PM »
Yes -  6,611 - 53%
No -  5,771 - 47%
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« Reply #170 on: November 03, 2009, 08:51:48 PM »
19/608 in

   No   7,130   51%
   Yes   6,900   49%
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« Reply #171 on: November 03, 2009, 08:55:59 PM »
No is up 55-45% now.
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« Reply #172 on: November 03, 2009, 08:56:40 PM »
No  14969 54.60%
Yes  12446 45.40%
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« Reply #173 on: November 03, 2009, 08:56:53 PM »
Please don't let me down, Maine.
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« Reply #174 on: November 03, 2009, 08:57:52 PM »
If Maine votes No, I'll be pleased with today's results.
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