Opinion of Senator Bobby Casey, PA

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Casey,_Jr.

Go.

Major Hp

But at least he doesn't hide being a Lefty like Arlen did.

[Mechaman]

HA HA, PA deserves him.

[pogo stick]

HA HA, PA deserves him.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Haha PA deserves him. It's not like it was an open seat. They ditched a powerful Republican Senator for an incompetent, mediocre, sh**tbag. And they have Arlen Specter, who I liked until I didn't.

[War on Want]

PA deserves him. You elect someone as terrible as Santorum and you deserve a terrible Democrat. I'd doubt I'd vote for him. I think I would opt out for the Socialist or Green candidate.

[Person Man]

He's an improvement. Just comes to show that you aren't getting anything done by just giving up on abortion.

[TeePee4Prez]

He's an improvement. Just comes to show that you aren't getting anything done by just giving up on abortion.

Basically.  I don't give a damn about Santorum's "power".  It was scary.  If the Democratic party wasn't so afraid to stand for something on abortion here, we would have someone more competent like Joe Hoeffel or Allyson Schwartz as Senator rather than this clown.  We could have won with either in the end, but I will still say Casey was good for the DSCC in that they could put money in other states.

[Хahar 🤔]

Minor improvement, but at least Santorum wanted the seat.

[TeePee4Prez]

Minor improvement, but at least Santorum wanted the seat.

I think somebody actually told Casey not to run for Gov next year.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

FF for sole reason: be destroyed Santorum

[WalterMitty]

hp.

[JSojourner]

I have to be honest.  I don't know enough to vote either way.  I do know that...

...his views on abortion rights don't square with mine.  However, I do respect Democrats and liberals (in and out of politics) who oppose abortion rights.  Sort of like I respect Republicans who are pro choice.  It takes guts to stand up to your own party.  That said, I think someone like Marcy Kaptur (in politics) or Nat Hentoff (outside the political ring) are better examples of serious liberals who happen to be anti-choice.  Casey has never struck me as particularly intelligent or serious.  His father, on the other hand, was a pretty bright light in the party.

I would have to know how he votes on other issues -- economic justice, environmental safety and protection and health care, for example -- before I vote.

[TeePee4Prez]

I have to be honest.  I don't know enough to vote either way.  I do know that...

...his views on abortion rights don't square with mine.  However, I do respect Democrats and liberals (in and out of politics) who oppose abortion rights.  Sort of like I respect Republicans who are pro choice.  It takes guts to stand up to your own party.  That said, I think someone like Marcy Kaptur (in politics) or Nat Hentoff (outside the political ring) are better examples of serious liberals who happen to be anti-choice.  Casey has never struck me as particularly intelligent or serious.  His father, on the other hand, was a pretty bright light in the party.

I would have to know how he votes on other issues -- economic justice, environmental safety and protection and health care, for example -- before I vote.

Except for his overzealousness on abortion AND birth control, Bob Casey Sr. was Pennsylvania's best Governor ever.  But I didn't like him for basically giving clearance to Rick Santorum in 1994.  For that his overall grade is an A- for me.  My knock on Casey Sr. is he let his zeal on abortion get in the way of the overall picture and I have supported anti-abortion Democrats in the past, in fact most of my political contributions over the course of my life went to one.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Ah, this is one time I would have enjoyed Father Phil's sermon on this guy

[TeePee4Prez]

Ah, this is one time I would have enjoyed Father Phil's sermon on this guy

His grade would have been an A+ despite the fact he agrees with Bob Sr. on virtually nothing economically.  Again, he was a Democrat who virtually rolled out the red carpet to Rick Santorum's Senate run.

[RI]

We need more pro-life Dems who aren't Republican shills.

[hcallega]

He is my favorite relatively new Senator (kennedy and byrd will always be my top 2, as long as they serve)

In response to those who say that the Democrats need to stand up to pro-lifers, that is why we have become the minority party in so many parts of the country. We no longer compete in many poor areas because voters do not believe that they can morally vote for a pro-choice candidate. As a pro-life Democrat I struggle with it sometimes as well, but I see the Democrats as more pro-life, as anti-poverty measures generally lead to less abortions than pointless political posturing. Casey fits both molds.

[TeePee4Prez]

He is my favorite relatively new Senator (kennedy and byrd will always be my top 2, as long as they serve)

In response to those who say that the Democrats need to stand up to pro-lifers, that is why we have become the minority party in so many parts of the country. We no longer compete in many poor areas because voters do not believe that they can morally vote for a pro-choice candidate. As a pro-life Democrat I struggle with it sometimes as well, but I see the Democrats as more pro-life, as anti-poverty measures generally lead to less abortions than pointless political posturing. Casey fits both molds.

But being a pro-choice (could sway on this), VERY pro-stem cell (now it's personal) and VERY pro-gun control Pennsylvania Democrat, I hate being told we have to abandon those issues in order to get elected.  That can get annoying and some elections have clearly proven that is not the case.  In fact with a lot of suburban Philadelphia voters who converted from Republicans to Democrats, it's the issues I listed above that swayed those voters over.  I am still generally in favor of center-left, pro-labor economic policies, but the prospect of voting for a Bob Casey or Jack Murtha type Democrat can be quite painful for me.  I have strongly supported pro-life State Rep. Brendan Boyle in the past, but he is nowhere near as conservative as Casey or Murtha.

[Хahar 🤔]

He is my favorite relatively new Senator (kennedy and byrd will always be my top 2, as long as they serve)

In response to those who say that the Democrats need to stand up to pro-lifers, that is why we have become the minority party in so many parts of the country. We no longer compete in many poor areas because voters do not believe that they can morally vote for a pro-choice candidate. As a pro-life Democrat I struggle with it sometimes as well, but I see the Democrats as more pro-life, as anti-poverty measures generally lead to less abortions than pointless political posturing. Casey fits both molds.

He doesn't care about the Senate. Like that, too?

[hcallega]

He is my favorite relatively new Senator (kennedy and byrd will always be my top 2, as long as they serve)

In response to those who say that the Democrats need to stand up to pro-lifers, that is why we have become the minority party in so many parts of the country. We no longer compete in many poor areas because voters do not believe that they can morally vote for a pro-choice candidate. As a pro-life Democrat I struggle with it sometimes as well, but I see the Democrats as more pro-life, as anti-poverty measures generally lead to less abortions than pointless political posturing. Casey fits both molds.

He doesn't care about the Senate. Like that, too?

I like that he's not just a left-wing gassbag, yes. Remember, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd were showhorses when they began their senate careers. Casey has no chance to win national office, so I think he'll be more likely to focus on the nitty gritty policy issues in the future.

But being a pro-choice (could sway on this), VERY pro-stem cell (now it's personal) and VERY pro-gun control Pennsylvania Democrat, I hate being told we have to abandon those issues in order to get elected.  That can get annoying and some elections have clearly proven that is not the case.  In fact with a lot of suburban Philadelphia voters who converted from Republicans to Democrats, it's the issues I listed above that swayed those voters over.  I am still generally in favor of center-left, pro-labor economic policies, but the prospect of voting for a Bob Casey or Jack Murtha type Democrat can be quite painful for me.  I have strongly supported pro-life State Rep. Brendan Boyle in the past, but he is nowhere near as conservative as Casey or Murtha.

I agree that we don't need to nominate pro-lifers to win, but I believe that it expands the base to voters who agree with us on the majority of issues, but simply cannot justify voting for a pro-choicer.

[Хahar 🤔]

He is my favorite relatively new Senator (kennedy and byrd will always be my top 2, as long as they serve)

In response to those who say that the Democrats need to stand up to pro-lifers, that is why we have become the minority party in so many parts of the country. We no longer compete in many poor areas because voters do not believe that they can morally vote for a pro-choice candidate. As a pro-life Democrat I struggle with it sometimes as well, but I see the Democrats as more pro-life, as anti-poverty measures generally lead to less abortions than pointless political posturing. Casey fits both molds.

He doesn't care about the Senate. Like that, too?

I like that he's not just a left-wing gassbag, yes. Remember, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd were showhorses when they began their senate careers. Casey has no chance to win national office, so I think he'll be more likely to focus on the nitty gritty policy issues in the future.

You clearly don't know much about Bob Casey, Jr. He's a careerist if there ever was one.

[TeePee4Prez]

He is my favorite relatively new Senator (kennedy and byrd will always be my top 2, as long as they serve)

In response to those who say that the Democrats need to stand up to pro-lifers, that is why we have become the minority party in so many parts of the country. We no longer compete in many poor areas because voters do not believe that they can morally vote for a pro-choice candidate. As a pro-life Democrat I struggle with it sometimes as well, but I see the Democrats as more pro-life, as anti-poverty measures generally lead to less abortions than pointless political posturing. Casey fits both molds.

He doesn't care about the Senate. Like that, too?

I like that he's not just a left-wing gassbag, yes. Remember, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd were showhorses when they began their senate careers. Casey has no chance to win national office, so I think he'll be more likely to focus on the nitty gritty policy issues in the future.

But being a pro-choice (could sway on this), VERY pro-stem cell (now it's personal) and VERY pro-gun control Pennsylvania Democrat, I hate being told we have to abandon those issues in order to get elected.  That can get annoying and some elections have clearly proven that is not the case.  In fact with a lot of suburban Philadelphia voters who converted from Republicans to Democrats, it's the issues I listed above that swayed those voters over.  I am still generally in favor of center-left, pro-labor economic policies, but the prospect of voting for a Bob Casey or Jack Murtha type Democrat can be quite painful for me.  I have strongly supported pro-life State Rep. Brendan Boyle in the past, but he is nowhere near as conservative as Casey or Murtha.

I agree that we don't need to nominate pro-lifers to win, but I believe that it expands the base to voters who agree with us on the majority of issues, but simply cannot justify voting for a pro-choicer.

I will agree that to some extent we need to nominate pro-lifers in certain districts and states in order to win.  I realize the need for the Holden/Murtha/Altmire/Dahlkemper Democrat in parts of Pennsylvania because otherwise a Republican would easily win.  But in some parts of the state the opposite is true.  The reason 2006-08 were so successful was we were able to have a nice union of getting back conservative seats, but also acquire newer seats that were once traditionally Republican due to their disenchantment with socially conservative policies- namely the Northeastern Corridor/New York seats.  The 1980s were the opposite where the GOP held it's suburban base and went into blue collar, socially conservative areas and had an effective majority the Blue Dog Southerners.  It really is a matter of what you're selling and how you do it.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     A fine example of why dynasty politics is a very negative thing. HP.