who would you have voted for?

[??????????]

Nixon was an outstanding President, minus Watergate. If it wasnt for him we'd be in a new Cold War- except with China

I agree with you on that. But I get blasted for defending Nixon..and I dont mean on the boards. People call Vietnam "Mr Nixons war" which of course is not true...to be truthful it should be called "Mr (and I use the term 'mister' very lightly) Johnsons war".

[Filuwaúrdjan]

1945: Atlee        Lab
1950: Atlee        Lab
1951: Atlee        Lab
1955: Atlee        Lab
1959: Gaitskill    Lab
1964: Wilson      Lab
1966: Wilson      Lab
1970: Wilson      Lab
1974: Wilson      Lab
1974: Wilson      Lab
1979: Callaghan Lab
1983: Foot          Lab
1987: Kinnock     Lab
1992: Kinnock     Lab
1997: Blair          Lab
2001: Blair          Lab

[??????????]

1945: Atlee        Lab
1950: Atlee        Lab
1951: Atlee        Lab
1955: Atlee        Lab
1959: Gaitskill    Lab
1964: Wilson      Lab
1966: Wilson      Lab
1970: Wilson      Lab
1974: Wilson      Lab
1974: Wilson      Lab
1979: Callaghan Lab
1983: Foot          Lab
1987: Kinnock     Lab
1992: Kinnock     Lab
1997: Blair          Lab
2001: Blair          Lab

Atlee and Blair are the only two people on this list I even recognize! Sad comment on American knowledge of history, huh? You wouldn't have voted for Churchill?

[The Dowager Mod]

I see the SNP and Plaid Cymru are trying to impeach Blair.

[JohnFKennedy]

1945: Atlee        Lab
1950: Atlee        Lab
1951: Atlee        Lab
1955: Atlee        Lab
1959: Gaitskill    Lab
1964: Wilson      Lab
1966: Wilson      Lab
1970: Wilson      Lab
1974: Wilson      Lab
1974: Wilson      Lab
1979: Callaghan Lab
1983: Foot          Lab
1987: Kinnock     Lab
1992: Kinnock     Lab
1997: Blair          Lab
2001: Blair          Lab

Atlee and Blair are the only two people on this list I even recognize! Sad comment on American knowledge of history, huh? You wouldn't have voted for Churchill?

You should have heard of Wilson (Harold), he kept the UK out of Vietnam, refused to even send some Scottish pipers as a show of unity .

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Nixon was an outstanding President, minus Watergate. If it wasnt for him we'd be in a new Cold War- except with China

Despite that, he had plenty of other flaws despite Watergate.

-Started War on Drugs
-Was involved in McCarthyism
-Escalation of the war in Vietnam (he deserves credit for pulling out, but he should've did it 4 years earlier)
-The coup in Chile
-the many other atrocities of Henry Kissinger

[AuH2O]

Guys, BRTD has a point... Nixon was anti-communist. What an evil man indeed.

Though pragmatic in the case of China. It is VERY possible the Soviets would have attacked the ChiComs if Nixon hadn't "suggested" the US would enter the war on the side of Chinese. The Soviets were less than impressed with China's nuclear weapons program.

In some ways though, Nixon was too politically astute to truly stand for what he knew to be true. He knew, of course, that the honorable Sen. McCarthy was essentially correct (McCarthy's main error was underestimating the number of communists in the government and the media), but he was much less vocal about the problem.

And, he should have talked to JFK and asked him not to invent the "missile gap." Nixon did not want to tip off the Soviets to our intelligence (they had virtually no reliable ICBMs in 1960, and a very poor bomber force composed of the ponderous "Bear"), so he let JFK claim Ike and himself had been asleep at the helm. He paid the price...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Guys, BRTD has a point... Nixon was anti-communist. What an evil man indeed.asleep at the helm. He paid the price...

right, installing thugs like Pinochet and supporting ones like Suharto is all fine and acceptable in the name of anti-Communism. and continuning to kill American kids and civilians in Vietnam is fine because it's anti-Communist! Even if that destabalizes the region allowing the Khmer Rouge to take power.

but then again this is from someone who said the "honorable" Sen. McCarthy.

[Dr. Cynic]

Senator McCarthy was anything but honorable.

[??????????]

Senator McCarthy was anything but honorable.

McCarthy was a great man.

[Dr. Cynic]

McCarthy was a paranoid man, who made us all paranoid about communists. He was discredited, as he should have been, and died drunk and penniless in 1957.