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Question: Is Biden DOA against Trump after the Hur report?
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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2024, 05:02:14 PM »

I honestly think this partisan hit job is going to backfire. Comey 2.0 is just going to piss off anyone who is still angry about July 2016 and cause the base to rally around Biden. Those who are eating this up were never going to vote Biden to begin with.
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2024, 05:02:55 PM »



My man:

He didn't remember when Beau died.

He didn't remember when he was Vice President.

He didn't remember who was on his side or against him when it came to Afghanistan.

This is late stage Reagan stuff. Period. Bury your head in the sand all you want, it won't make it go away.

Please don't act as if you have medical expertise when you do not. But even someone who isn't a doctor should know that late stage Alzheimer's is much, much, much worse than forgetting a few dates and it's offensive to people actual suffering from the disease for you to say this to make a cheap political point. People in the last stages of Alzheimer's are often not even coherent, aren't able to swallow and are in hospice care.
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2024, 05:04:00 PM »


He didn't remember when Beau died.

He didn't remember when he was Vice President.

He didn't remember who was on his side or against him when it came to Afghanistan.

This is late stage Reagan stuff. Period. Bury your head in the sand all you want, it won't make it go away.

Not remembering the exact year something happened is not remotely equivalent to not remembering that something happened in the first place. Some people just aren't good at years.

How do you not remember when you were Vice President. That’s literally one of most recognizable offices in the land and is an office in which the start and end date are basically fixed .
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2024, 05:06:12 PM »


He didn't remember when Beau died.

He didn't remember when he was Vice President.

He didn't remember who was on his side or against him when it came to Afghanistan.

This is late stage Reagan stuff. Period. Bury your head in the sand all you want, it won't make it go away.

Not remembering the exact year something happened is not remotely equivalent to not remembering that something happened in the first place. Some people just aren't good at years.

How do you not remember when you were Vice President. That’s literally one of most recognizable offices in the land and is an office in which the start and end date are basically fixed .

It was literally the median year of his vice presidency, too. It’s not like he just forgot that the inauguration wasn’t in November.
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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2024, 05:06:43 PM »

Voters don't care about such things, at most it will become a partisan excuse by both sides as usual.

Neither Trump or Biden are hurt politically by prosecutions or legal reports.
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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2024, 06:10:43 PM »



This. It's Comey all over again in that sense. The investigation into Mike Pence found no charges, and that was it. There was no report leaked, or editorializing in the report. If you haven't found charges, there's no need to accompany that with a whole additional report on your opinion of the matter. The entire ordeal is inappropriate.
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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2024, 06:11:15 PM »

No candidate is DOA in February.
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2024, 06:22:06 PM »

It's going to be up to Joe and Jill to decide whether he continues--not some Democratic cabal or some third-rate media (I have very little respect for today's journalists).  He's going to get the nomination regardless, and he'll have to voluntarily withdraw

Again, I wish he had said he wouldn't run again in late 2022/early 2023.  But if Biden is going through with it, I'll back him and get any of my friends/family/colleagues to do the same in order to stem the tide of criminality and fascism that Trump and his minions will foist on this country.
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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2024, 06:26:20 PM »

Biden's political future aside, I don't know why Democrats keep appointing Republicans to important roles that can impact elections. Republican FBI director. Republican Fed chairman. Republican special counsel. Do Republicans go out of their way to appoint Democrats to anything? No.
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2024, 06:26:53 PM »

Biden's political future aside, I don't know why Democrats keep appointing Republicans to important roles that can impact elections. Republican FBI director. Republican Fed chairman. Republican special counsel. Do Republicans go out of their way to appoint Democrats to anything? No.

Yeah, why Garland even appointed this guy is beyond me.
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2024, 06:38:43 PM »

No.
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2024, 07:13:58 PM »
« Edited: February 08, 2024, 07:25:20 PM by Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ »


He didn't remember when Beau died.

He didn't remember when he was Vice President.

He didn't remember who was on his side or against him when it came to Afghanistan.

This is late stage Reagan stuff. Period. Bury your head in the sand all you want, it won't make it go away.

Not remembering the exact year something happened is not remotely equivalent to not remembering that something happened in the first place. Some people just aren't good at years.

How do you not remember when you were Vice President. That’s literally one of most recognizable offices in the land and is an office in which the start and end date are basically fixed .

Bro, I've had one job my entire adult life and I would struggle to tell you when I started. I really have to struggle to remember what year I went to high school and college (frequently thinking college was earlier) until I remember the year itself matches my grade number. Otherwise I'd be hopeless. I could not begin to remember the year any important event in my life happened, maybe aside from sports championships, if I did not write it down or have pictures cataloging it to look at first.

I'm not even 30 years old. I really don't think anyone over 25 should have any reason to remember so precisely, let alone an 80 year old man doing a very important job. Literally how much do you want him to remember? 80 years of his eventful life and intense national security secrets?

If you remember such stupid details, you should free up the memory drive for more important information.
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2024, 07:16:19 PM »


He didn't remember when Beau died.

He didn't remember when he was Vice President.

He didn't remember who was on his side or against him when it came to Afghanistan.

This is late stage Reagan stuff. Period. Bury your head in the sand all you want, it won't make it go away.

Not remembering the exact year something happened is not remotely equivalent to not remembering that something happened in the first place. Some people just aren't good at years.

How do you not remember when you were Vice President. That’s literally one of most recognizable offices in the land and is an office in which the start and end date are basically fixed .
Biden having these Memory lapses is very damaging!
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2024, 09:19:37 PM »



Biden team really needs to work on spreading moments like this where he combats the attacks on his age by using humour.
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2024, 10:00:21 PM »

LMAO.    Nooooooo.
What a ridiculous poll. (Are you trolling?)
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2024, 10:53:10 PM »

Biden's political future aside, I don't know why Democrats keep appointing Republicans to important roles that can impact elections. Republican FBI director. Republican Fed chairman. Republican special counsel. Do Republicans go out of their way to appoint Democrats to anything? No.

Yeah, why Garland even appointed this guy is beyond me.

If he had been cleared by a Democrat, independents might not and Republicans certainly would not buy it.  But no one can say this guy was shilling for Biden and it takes the issue of the classified documents off the table for him (notably not for Trump whose alleged actions are criticized in this report). No one's going to remember much less care about these memory anecdotes in October.
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2024, 11:20:44 PM »



My man:

He didn't remember when Beau died.

He didn't remember when he was Vice President.

He didn't remember who was on his side or against him when it came to Afghanistan.

I haven't found any of these in-context yet. (Maybe someone with more time to read the damned thing can share them in context.) But a Republican grabbing a sentence (or sentence fragment) and claiming it's damning is not something that should be accepted at face value.
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2024, 11:45:03 PM »

Probably the only reason he's not DOA is that Republicans are just not willing to concede that Biden is a "well meaning old man".

They're so invested in a crazed, futile, and unending effort to dig up some evidence of corruption that they will forever refuse to let go of this ineffective line of attack and actually capitalize on one that a majority of the American public agree with.

They can't. If they truly present the American public with a choice between a "well-meaning, somewhat befuddled old man" and "fabulist, fraudster, rapist and traitor Donald Trump" they'll lose in a landslide, and lose down-ballot as well. And they know it.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2024, 11:46:54 PM »

Biden is the underdog but still has a chance.
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« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2024, 09:43:14 AM »

Biden's political future aside, I don't know why Democrats keep appointing Republicans to important roles that can impact elections. Republican FBI director. Republican Fed chairman. Republican special counsel. Do Republicans go out of their way to appoint Democrats to anything? No.

This is actually an important point not discussed enough and what generally frustrates me most about my party. I guess Dems try to occupy the moral highground here and appointing a GOPer occurs under the assumption a positive outcome gives them more credibility with swing voters. "See, even Mr. XY (R) conclude Prez YX (D) did nothing wrong." Obviously this never or barely materializes as few actual persuadable swing voters exist anymore. And those who exist care about other issues than some reports by a special counsel (or legal issues in general, otherwise Trump would be DOA). Dems are just overestimating the amount of swing voters and wrongfully this kind of stuff matters do them.

It's generally a concern Dems are always try the high road instead of forcefully fighting back against the GOP. Say about them and Trump what you want, they actually fight back as hell and never back down. Obama's presidency is the best example for that. He way too much tried to engage with the GOP instead of acting like a real winner that won a mandate.
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« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2024, 11:18:02 AM »

Biden's political future aside, I don't know why Democrats keep appointing Republicans to important roles that can impact elections. Republican FBI director. Republican Fed chairman. Republican special counsel. Do Republicans go out of their way to appoint Democrats to anything? No.

This is actually an important point not discussed enough and what generally frustrates me most about my party. I guess Dems try to occupy the moral highground here and appointing a GOPer occurs under the assumption a positive outcome gives them more credibility with swing voters. "See, even Mr. XY (R) conclude Prez YX (D) did nothing wrong." Obviously this never or barely materializes as few actual persuadable swing voters exist anymore. And those who exist care about other issues than some reports by a special counsel (or legal issues in general, otherwise Trump would be DOA). Dems are just overestimating the amount of swing voters and wrongfully this kind of stuff matters do them.

It's generally a concern Dems are always try the high road instead of forcefully fighting back against the GOP. Say about them and Trump what you want, they actually fight back as hell and never back down. Obama's presidency is the best example for that. He way too much tried to engage with the GOP instead of acting like a real winner that won a mandate.

I think they're starting to abandon the whole "when they go low, we go high" thing. I obviously didn't like what they did in MI-03 at all, but it objectively worked for them.
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