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Humans will last less than 50 years
 
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Humans will last between 50-100 years
 
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Humans will last between 100-1,000 years
 
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Humans will last between 1,000-10,000 years
 
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Humans will last 10,000-100,000 years
 
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Humans will last 100,000-1 million years
 
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Humans will last for more than 1 million more years
 
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« on: April 20, 2023, 06:10:46 PM »

And how do you see their end coming about? I expect a wide range of answers, but I could be wrong.

(Also note I said "on the Earth," so if you think humanity will either survive in space or in some other realm, the question becomes "when will the last human leave Earth?")
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2023, 06:34:46 PM »

Until when Jesus Christ returns. I do not know that date and obviously no one can predict it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2023, 07:11:27 PM »

I'm pleasantly surprised we've lasted this long.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2023, 12:49:32 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2023, 12:58:36 AM by Senator Laki »

Statistically speaking around 10.000 years at most



Due to this and the odds of me being born. If humans last millions and millions of years, why would i be born as "one of the pioneers". What would the odds be that i'm born today and not when the galaxy is being fully colonized.

The Doomsday Argument

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The Doomsday Argument (DA), or Carter catastrophe, is a probabilistic argument that claims to predict the future population of the human species, based on an estimation of the number of humans born to date.

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If Leslie's figure is used, then approximately 60 billion humans have been born so far, so it can be estimated that there is a 95% chance that the total number of humans will be less than 1.2 trillion. Assuming that the world population stabilizes at 10 billion and a life expectancy of 80 years, it can be estimated that the remaining 1140 billion humans will be born in 9120 years. Depending on the projection of the world population in the forthcoming centuries, estimates may vary, but the argument states that it is unlikely that more than 1.2 trillion humans will ever live.

If for instance exactly 50% of humans would be born before I were and 50% of humans would be after me, we wouldn't even last longer than few centuries at most.

It can be lengthier in case of drastic population collapse, but even that would imply something bad would happen.

Someone did the same exercise for the Berlin Wall in the 1960s

Doomsday And The Dark Forest: The Fall Of The Berlin Wall And Our Quest For The Stars

J Richard Gott, now an astrophysicist famous for the notion that the universe might have created itself by reaching back through time, visited the Berlin Wall in 1969, while an undergraduate at Harvard. There, he made the following prediction (paraphrased):

The Wall will stand for at least 2 and 2/3 years more, but no longer than 24 years.

On November 9, 1989, a rough twenty years later, his prediction came to fruition, and the Wall came down, precipitating the reunification of East and West Germany.

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An animal species on average last a few million years before we talk about "a new species" through evolution. And given technological evolution and sociological evolution are a thing, and how we've seen society change so much in a short time, it is not unthinkeable that humans would be something completely unrecogniseable much sooner, like cyborgs or robots. Or that artificial intelligence simply takes over.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2023, 01:09:00 AM »





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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2023, 01:18:46 AM »

Also, the question is "on Earth".

I mean everyone who is saying over 1 million years... doesn't realize that with this current range of climate change



that in 2000 years the Earth would've warmed globally with 20°C and in 10.000 years by 100°C.

So unless those things turn around, we would definitely have left Earth by than.

1000 years we didn't even knew of "the new world" and the Americas (from a old world perspective),  and now we're talking about going to Mars.

I mean 1 million years is for a various amount of reasons extremely unrealistic. Homo Sapiens didn't even exist 1 million years ago.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2023, 08:20:18 AM »

I cannot know the date or the hour when Jesus will return, and attempting to predict that date is Biblically wrong.  But, there will not be an apocalypse before then.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2023, 08:45:36 AM »

Do we define "end" of the species as extinction or as some kind of transhumanist evolution/transformation?

Recently I saw an article arguing that the fact that we are all carrying a small computer in form of smartphone with us all the time can be considered as the first step of the merger of humans and technology, although at this early stage the technology still exists separate from our biological bodies.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2023, 08:10:15 PM »

we have already made it 8 days since the world started and there doesnt seem to be an end in sight
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2023, 10:53:00 PM »


I see we have an optimist here.

I’ll go with this:


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