As of January 20, 2023, how are Biden's re-election odds looking? Can he win a second term?

[Nightcore Nationalist]

His chances are better than at any time prior to the fall of Kabul.

I want to know what you're smoking.

If trump is the nominee , Biden cannot be attacked for documentgate as Trump did the same thing plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

As long as Trump has a good shot of being the Republican nominee , Biden has a good shot of being re-elected.

Biden has a "good shot" of being re-elected with DeSantis too, or any other nominee lol (most of whom would do worse in a GE than Trump).  Incumbents aren't easy to knock off, and the midterms exposed vulnerabilities in the GOP's turnout and geographic efficiency that weren't obvious 2 years ago.  Biden is somewhat favored over DeSantis in GA and PA, those 2 states are ballgame.

plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

LMFAO

[S019]

His chances are better than at any time prior to the fall of Kabul.

I want to know what you're smoking.

If trump is the nominee , Biden cannot be attacked for documentgate as Trump did the same thing plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

As long as Trump has a good shot of being the Republican nominee , Biden has a good shot of being re-elected.

Biden has a "good shot" of being re-elected with DeSantis too, or any other nominee lol (most of whom would do worse in a GE than Trump).  Incumbents aren't easy to knock off, and the midterms exposed vulnerabilities in the GOP's turnout and geographic efficiency that weren't obvious 2 years ago.  Biden is somewhat favored over DeSantis in GA and PA, those 2 states are ballgame.

plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

LMFAO

If Biden is favored over DeSantis in GA, how badly do you think Trump will do there? Also the Dems aren’t really favored in PA, 2022 only happened because of Shapiro’s landslide and Mehmet Oz having Hillary-tier favorables, neither will happen in 2024. Trump is probably disfavored in AZ+MI too, which means he basically needs to run the table to win again.

[Tekken_Guy]

His chances are better than at any time prior to the fall of Kabul.

I want to know what you're smoking.

If trump is the nominee , Biden cannot be attacked for documentgate as Trump did the same thing plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

As long as Trump has a good shot of being the Republican nominee , Biden has a good shot of being re-elected.

Biden has a "good shot" of being re-elected with DeSantis too, or any other nominee lol (most of whom would do worse in a GE than Trump).  Incumbents aren't easy to knock off, and the midterms exposed vulnerabilities in the GOP's turnout and geographic efficiency that weren't obvious 2 years ago.  Biden is somewhat favored over DeSantis in GA and PA, those 2 states are ballgame.

plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

LMFAO

If Biden is favored over DeSantis in GA, how badly do you think Trump will do there? Also the Dems aren’t really favored in PA, 2022 only happened because of Shapiro’s landslide and Mehmet Oz having Hillary-tier favorables, neither will happen in 2024. Trump is probably disfavored in AZ+MI too, which means he basically needs to run the table to win again.

Oz lost by nearly 5 points. And a lot of the same problems that Republicans had in Wisconsin and Michigan last year will carry over to PA.

[SN2903]

His chances are better than at any time prior to the fall of Kabul.

I want to know what you're smoking.

If trump is the nominee , Biden cannot be attacked for documentgate as Trump did the same thing plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

As long as Trump has a good shot of being the Republican nominee , Biden has a good shot of being re-elected.

You need to stop hating on Trump more than Biden. Trump isn't president anymore dude. What he did/didn't do is irrelevant. The buck stops with the President. Biden is President and he has l lied about 3x already regarding documents/not to mention admitting on national TV he broke the law having classified documents in his garage. It's getting really old at this point and maybe you should switch parties? Most of the Bushies already have.

You need voters like sunrise and I if you want to win and 2020 and 2022 proves it just like 2012 shows we need voters like you if we want to win . We both need each other to win and right now the populist right seems to not want our votes and due to that they are losing including losing to someone as horrible as Katie Hobbs .

Also if Trump listened to Mike Pence after 2020 and conceded the election rather than try to illegally steal it and then spend two years pushing candidates who wanted to overturn it as well , then he probably would have gotten our votes in 2024 . He chose not to do that and that’s his fault not ours .

Politicians aren’t entitled to anyone’s votes , they have to get them .

Both voter bases are important but the right should be focused on Biden and Biden only. He is President and the buck stops with him.

Ok and look where that got us in 2022 . The fact is the American people dislike Biden but really dislike Trump and that is all on Trump  . Tell me where would Trump be right now if he listened to Mike pence and just conceded after he lost the court challenges and didn’t say stuff like “abolish the constitution”.

He would obviously be in much better Position and the favorite to win and maybe you guys should realize this instead of blaming the “establishment right” for all your problems. If you want the populist right to win then dump Trump for another candidate, otherwise what happened in 2022 will happen in 2024 .

2022 isn't 2024.

Why did you go back to Trump after realizing how much of a loser that man was . The fact  Trump is a loser who hates our country given he wants to abolish our constitution and he will never ever be president again .

Trump is radioactive in the suburbs required to win even more than he was in 2020 due to Jan 6th and promoting horrific candidates like Kari Lake

I want the left's hypocrisy to be exposed for our economy to come roaring back.

Ok then let's not nominate Trump, so we can defeat those hypocrites  in 2024. Let's not nominate someone whose unelectable just to prove a point cause all that will do is give us 4 more years of the Democrats and leftist hypocrisy.

That's what the primary is for? Then party has to unite regardless of who it is after that.

That's not how it works in reality though. It didn't work for Romney in 2012, Trump's bad campaign cost him key suburban support in 2020, and the same thing happened with Masters/Lake/Walker.
This btw is just not true for us but its also true for the Democrats as just look at Hillary in 2016 .

The fact is Trump going out and :

- Trying to illegally overturn an election(All the court cases were lost)

- Pushing horrible candidates that wanted to make that as a litmus test

- Saying we should abolish the constitution


has made him an even worse candidate than he was in 2020 and if we nominate him we will lose. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3827864-trump-leads-biden-in-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll/

[OSR stands with Israel]

His chances are better than at any time prior to the fall of Kabul.

I want to know what you're smoking.

If trump is the nominee , Biden cannot be attacked for documentgate as Trump did the same thing plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

As long as Trump has a good shot of being the Republican nominee , Biden has a good shot of being re-elected.

You need to stop hating on Trump more than Biden. Trump isn't president anymore dude. What he did/didn't do is irrelevant. The buck stops with the President. Biden is President and he has l lied about 3x already regarding documents/not to mention admitting on national TV he broke the law having classified documents in his garage. It's getting really old at this point and maybe you should switch parties? Most of the Bushies already have.

You need voters like sunrise and I if you want to win and 2020 and 2022 proves it just like 2012 shows we need voters like you if we want to win . We both need each other to win and right now the populist right seems to not want our votes and due to that they are losing including losing to someone as horrible as Katie Hobbs .

Also if Trump listened to Mike Pence after 2020 and conceded the election rather than try to illegally steal it and then spend two years pushing candidates who wanted to overturn it as well , then he probably would have gotten our votes in 2024 . He chose not to do that and that’s his fault not ours .

Politicians aren’t entitled to anyone’s votes , they have to get them .

Both voter bases are important but the right should be focused on Biden and Biden only. He is President and the buck stops with him.

Ok and look where that got us in 2022 . The fact is the American people dislike Biden but really dislike Trump and that is all on Trump  . Tell me where would Trump be right now if he listened to Mike pence and just conceded after he lost the court challenges and didn’t say stuff like “abolish the constitution”.

He would obviously be in much better Position and the favorite to win and maybe you guys should realize this instead of blaming the “establishment right” for all your problems. If you want the populist right to win then dump Trump for another candidate, otherwise what happened in 2022 will happen in 2024 .

2022 isn't 2024.

Why did you go back to Trump after realizing how much of a loser that man was . The fact  Trump is a loser who hates our country given he wants to abolish our constitution and he will never ever be president again .

Trump is radioactive in the suburbs required to win even more than he was in 2020 due to Jan 6th and promoting horrific candidates like Kari Lake

I want the left's hypocrisy to be exposed for our economy to come roaring back.

Ok then let's not nominate Trump, so we can defeat those hypocrites  in 2024. Let's not nominate someone whose unelectable just to prove a point cause all that will do is give us 4 more years of the Democrats and leftist hypocrisy.

That's what the primary is for? Then party has to unite regardless of who it is after that.

That's not how it works in reality though. It didn't work for Romney in 2012, Trump's bad campaign cost him key suburban support in 2020, and the same thing happened with Masters/Lake/Walker.
This btw is just not true for us but its also true for the Democrats as just look at Hillary in 2016 .

The fact is Trump going out and :

- Trying to illegally overturn an election(All the court cases were lost)

- Pushing horrible candidates that wanted to make that as a litmus test

- Saying we should abolish the constitution


has made him an even worse candidate than he was in 2020 and if we nominate him we will lose. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3827864-trump-leads-biden-in-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll/

15% undecided in today’s day and age is lol and anyway a Republican isn’t winning the presidency unless they win 2 of these 3 states : AZ GA PA

[SN2903]

His chances are better than at any time prior to the fall of Kabul.

I want to know what you're smoking.

If trump is the nominee , Biden cannot be attacked for documentgate as Trump did the same thing plus he was also responsible for Jan 6th .

As long as Trump has a good shot of being the Republican nominee , Biden has a good shot of being re-elected.

You need to stop hating on Trump more than Biden. Trump isn't president anymore dude. What he did/didn't do is irrelevant. The buck stops with the President. Biden is President and he has l lied about 3x already regarding documents/not to mention admitting on national TV he broke the law having classified documents in his garage. It's getting really old at this point and maybe you should switch parties? Most of the Bushies already have.

You need voters like sunrise and I if you want to win and 2020 and 2022 proves it just like 2012 shows we need voters like you if we want to win . We both need each other to win and right now the populist right seems to not want our votes and due to that they are losing including losing to someone as horrible as Katie Hobbs .

Also if Trump listened to Mike Pence after 2020 and conceded the election rather than try to illegally steal it and then spend two years pushing candidates who wanted to overturn it as well , then he probably would have gotten our votes in 2024 . He chose not to do that and that’s his fault not ours .

Politicians aren’t entitled to anyone’s votes , they have to get them .

Both voter bases are important but the right should be focused on Biden and Biden only. He is President and the buck stops with him.

Ok and look where that got us in 2022 . The fact is the American people dislike Biden but really dislike Trump and that is all on Trump  . Tell me where would Trump be right now if he listened to Mike pence and just conceded after he lost the court challenges and didn’t say stuff like “abolish the constitution”.

He would obviously be in much better Position and the favorite to win and maybe you guys should realize this instead of blaming the “establishment right” for all your problems. If you want the populist right to win then dump Trump for another candidate, otherwise what happened in 2022 will happen in 2024 .

2022 isn't 2024.

Why did you go back to Trump after realizing how much of a loser that man was . The fact  Trump is a loser who hates our country given he wants to abolish our constitution and he will never ever be president again .

Trump is radioactive in the suburbs required to win even more than he was in 2020 due to Jan 6th and promoting horrific candidates like Kari Lake

I want the left's hypocrisy to be exposed for our economy to come roaring back.

Ok then let's not nominate Trump, so we can defeat those hypocrites  in 2024. Let's not nominate someone whose unelectable just to prove a point cause all that will do is give us 4 more years of the Democrats and leftist hypocrisy.

That's what the primary is for? Then party has to unite regardless of who it is after that.

That's not how it works in reality though. It didn't work for Romney in 2012, Trump's bad campaign cost him key suburban support in 2020, and the same thing happened with Masters/Lake/Walker.
This btw is just not true for us but its also true for the Democrats as just look at Hillary in 2016 .

The fact is Trump going out and :

- Trying to illegally overturn an election(All the court cases were lost)

- Pushing horrible candidates that wanted to make that as a litmus test

- Saying we should abolish the constitution


has made him an even worse candidate than he was in 2020 and if we nominate him we will lose.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3827864-trump-leads-biden-in-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll/

15% undecided in today’s day and age is lol and anyway a Republican isn’t winning the presidency unless they win 2 of these 3 states : AZ GA PA

NV WI PA is 270

[Spectator]

MAGA is certainly rising again in the Republican primary for sure. I think the rest of the country is sick of the man though.

[THG]

Yes, he can win a second term. I rate his chances as definitely existing but not awesome either.

A lot of it is strongly dependent on the economy or who the GOP nominates for President, and how they run their campaigns. Right now it's too early to declare a certain nominee even if Trump looks favored, and the economy looks sluggish but it's yet to be seen if the unemployment rate spikes, which will hurt Biden a lot more than inflation rates.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I don't think Trump can beat Biden in a rematch unless things derail in this country before election day and the environment is toxic for Democrats.

[SN2903]

I don't think Trump can beat Biden in a rematch unless things derail in this country before election day and the environment is toxic for Democrats.

O he can win.

[Ferguson97]

I don't think Trump can beat Biden in a rematch unless things derail in this country before election day and the environment is toxic for Democrats.

O he can win.

I'm starting to think that you're repudiation of Trump wasn't genuine and you were just waiting for an excuse to turn back to him so you can support him while feigning superiority.

[SN2903]

I don't think Trump can beat Biden in a rematch unless things derail in this country before election day and the environment is toxic for Democrats.

O he can win.

I'm starting to think that you're repudiation of Trump wasn't genuine and you were just waiting for an excuse to turn back to him so you can support him while feigning superiority.

I honestly don't care who wins but it's fun pointing out the hypocrisy of the left these days. They're such a far cry from what they claim to support.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden isn't inevitable both parties are gonna have nominees but Biden and Trump are under FBI investigation and candidacy can be changed we have to wait 1 yr from now

[Nightcore Nationalist]

If Biden is favored over DeSantis in GA, how badly do you think Trump will do there? Also the Dems aren’t really favored in PA, 2022 only happened because of Shapiro’s landslide and Mehmet Oz having Hillary-tier favorables, neither will happen in 2024. Trump is probably disfavored in AZ+MI too, which means he basically needs to run the table to win again.

Badly, which is why GA should be triaged in favor of PA.  The change of the electorate in GA relative to 2020 would be almost insurmountable to any Republican not named Brian Kemp.

You don't think Biden would be favored in PA?  Much of this would depend on what kind of campaign DeSantis runs on and if he's serious with winning the rust belt (ie: trade).  But given what his biggest boosters think, he/the GOP may focus only on the sun belt and ignore PA and MI, leaving a very low ceiling of 278 EVs, due to the party learning the wrong lessons from the midterms.

[oldtimer]

How can a Democrat lose when unemployment is 3%, the economy is booming, and there is no domestic or foreign crisis, and in the midterms Republicans losing all the swing states while winning the popular vote by 3.

Even a dead man can win as long as he has a D next to his name.

[Spectator]

How can a Democrat lose when unemployment is 3%, the economy is booming, and there is no domestic or foreign crisis, and in the midterms Republicans losing all the swing states while winning the popular vote by 3.

Even a dead man can win as long as he has a D next to his name.

The economy is not “booming”, at least when you factor in inflation and the stagnant stock market. And 2022 was more due to Republicans blowing it than Democrats winning it.

I do think Biden is a significant favorite in 2024 though, especially against Trump.

[Mechavada]

99.5%.  The only chance he has of losing is if Trump isn't in the race.  If Trump wins the GOP nomination he will lose badly to Joe Biden because folks find losers embarrassing. If Trump doesn't win the nomination he will go third party/independent and cost the Republican nominee enough votes to lose the election.


Again, the choices is yours Republicans.  Destroy Trump.  Sacrifice him to the owl God in the Bohemian Grove.  Until this happens God will keep punishing you.

[Frodo]

Bernie Sanders, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren certainly think he looks strongly favored to win re-election at this point, as none of them are going to primary him in 2024:
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Bernie Sanders says he won’t primary Biden and would support him if he runs again

Newsom Told the White House He Won’t Challenge Biden

Warren throws support behind Biden for reelection, defers on Harris as running mate

[President Johnson]

Bernie Sanders, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren certainly think he looks strongly favored to win re-election at this point, as none of them are going to primary him in 2024:
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Bernie Sanders says he won’t primary Biden and would support him if he runs again

Newsom Told the White House He Won’t Challenge Biden

Warren throws support behind Biden for reelection, defers on Harris as running mate

It's interesting that Bernie floated a primary challenge to Obama around 2011 while he doesn't now. And I don't think it's just due to age. More likely is that Biden's governing style is more progressive than anticipated and Bernie possibly knows that without strong congressional majorities, there's not much more you can achieve.

[Florida Paleoconservative]

As of now, he is in a good position to win re-election.

However, if we have a recession by late 2023/early 2024, he could easily be positioned to lose McCain-style.

[Minnesota Mike]

I think he’s either going to win in a landslide or get totally blown out. I see evidence for either side. It mostly depends on whether or not we can avoid a recession and whether Trump wins the nomination.

Anything is possible but what evidence have you seen of a possible Republican blowout? There has not been a Republican blowout since 1988 and I really do not see what would change that trend next year.

[emailking]

I'd give him the edge. Things are looking up, and it's hard to unseat the incumbent.

[pbrower2a]

He will lose if we have an international disaster or the economy goes into the tank. Your guess is as good as mine on that. He will lose if a major scandal erupts involving corrupt practices or sexual misconduct involving him... I see such as unlikely because he is too cautious for that (see Obama)

Barring such, incumbency is a huge advantage -- so much that the worst President since the Civil War came close to getting re-elected. The political culture is changing, and generally in favor of Democrats. If Republicans were behaving as they did in the 1960's and 1970's they would get the edge, but Democrats are redefining old conservative virtues to their advantage.