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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2022, 01:26:35 AM »

Does it really matter?

Once you're in your 90s, your organs are inevitably tuckered out and start to reduce in function, and once one starts to fail they all start to follow. Whichever one gives out first - heart, lungs, kidneys, liver - is really irrelevant. They were all on their way out.
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2022, 06:06:33 PM »

And not to mention she lost her loved one last year, right?

I remarked at the time that couples together for anything like that long often died not too far apart.

I was trying to remember where I had seen this posted back then.
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2022, 06:22:58 PM »

Weird to see her legal name written out like a normal person. Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor.
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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2022, 08:01:00 PM »

Weird to see her legal name written out like a normal person. Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor.
Yeah - you only tend to see their full, normal-people names written on official documents like this, or spoken when reciting oaths (marriages, coronations, etc).
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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2022, 08:30:17 PM »

Weird to see her legal name written out like a normal person. Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor.

I didn't even think she had a last name.
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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2022, 04:31:39 AM »

Weird to see her legal name written out like a normal person. Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor.

I didn't even think she had a last name.

Though I think her offspring are actually styled Mountbatten-Windsor.

(this is how William was registered when he went to university, for example)
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2022, 05:30:28 AM »

Weird to see her legal name written out like a normal person. Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor.

I didn't even think she had a last name.

Though I think her offspring are actually styled Mountbatten-Windsor.

(this is how William was registered when he went to university, for example)

IIRC, when Harry was in the Army, he was called Harry Wales.
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2022, 05:41:20 AM »

It's a slightly weird area, but the name used depends on the sort of paperwork in question. Officially they do not have surnames, but when a surname is required for something legal the standard has become 'Mountbatten-Windsor' when descended from the marriage of Elizabeth and Philip. Again a slightly bizarre legal fiction, but such is the monarchy.
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2022, 09:58:49 AM »

Had a bit of a chuckle at the 'Occupation of Father' entry.

I saw an entry once from the 1851 census.
- Victoria was listed as head of household, which was extremely rare for a woman living with her husband.
- Her occupation was listed as "Sovereign".
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2022, 09:57:40 PM »

Charles is from a pretty impressive male line House of European monarchs. But they are staying with the Windsor name for the House.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Oldenburg
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2022, 10:03:04 PM »

Charles is from a pretty impressive male line House of European monarchs. But they are staying with the Windsor name for the House.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Oldenburg

This was already discussed when Elizabeth became Queen. Apparently there were some pretty heated disagreements about it between Elizabeth, Philip, Churchill (then in his second stint as PM), and all-time-great Firm swamp crocodile Sir Alan Lascelles, although I don't remember offhand who was on what side.
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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2022, 10:52:20 PM »

Charles is from a pretty impressive male line House of European monarchs. But they are staying with the Windsor name for the House.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Oldenburg

In my view it wouldn't really make sense to have the name of the house swap now that they're on equal primogeniture. If women have equal rights to the throne then they have equal rights to have the dynasty name pass on to their children.
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2022, 06:18:01 AM »

The House name only changes if there is no children by the inherited child like Richard II had no kids so it passed to Henry Bollingbrook and his kids thats why we got the Henrys, thats why it hasnt change, if Prince George or Princess Charlotte don't have kids and neither does Harry kids give him grandchild only then will it pass to Princesses Anne Grandkids and change the House name, Richard was gay but they gave him a spouse thats why no kids, they are all related even if they are cuz anyways, but they are the decendants of Victoria


But thats a long time from now, we are talking Prince George thats 2100, Charles and William are gonna be on the throne next
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« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2022, 06:54:29 AM »


Henry Bolingbrook was cuz not brother of Richard II and Richard II was deposed because they knew he had no children to succeed him and that would end his line Richard II was part of Planetaget House and Henrys were part of Lancaster House, and once we got the Henrys we got the first Queen Elizabeth

If a cousin not Brother or Sister succeeds an inherited child like Henry succeeded Richard II thats when the name changes House but since Princess Anne is a Victorian her Grandchildren if need be might keep Windsor too, but they would have the right to change the name only if Harry or William kids didn't have children
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