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« on: September 13, 2021, 09:01:57 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2021, 09:23:28 PM »

*insert “Fuzzy made this billboard” joke here*
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2021, 09:31:40 PM »

Yes, because Romans 8:17 doesn't say that at all. Misrepresenting the word of God is definitionally blasphemy.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2021, 09:53:27 PM »

Blasphemy is a silly concept in general, but of course this billboard is completely absurd and very, very American.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2021, 09:54:37 PM »

Most American Christians have nothing but eternity in the Lake of Fire to look forward to, so they better hope their religion isn't actually true.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2021, 10:21:34 PM »

Yes, because Romans 8:17 doesn't say that at all. Misrepresenting the word of God is definitionally blasphemy.

Indeed. Let's look at the full passage:

Quote from: Romans 8:12-17
12 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.[f] And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

Got to love how verses 12 and 13 provide such context to what follows: and then they relate it to TRUMP.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2021, 10:48:06 PM »

Blasphemy is the one unforgiveable sin.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2021, 11:15:56 PM »

Blasphemy is the one unforgiveable sin.
Well sort of, that passage is misinterpreted. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin. And that's because the Holy Spirit acts as sort of the messenger of God, and brings God to our hearts. When you feel the presence of God, you're being touched by the Holy Spirit. So to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you must cut off your connection to it, and thus God entirely.

However what's misinterpreted by it is that if you later find yourself redeemed and seeking God and Christ again, you did not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. If it can touch you, you left an opening, no matter how small. So there's no real way to know if someone has blasphemed the Holy Spirit on Earth, only God can. It's unforgivable because it's a sort of burning of bridges, and we can't determine if that has happened.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2021, 12:02:26 AM »
« Edited: September 16, 2021, 07:36:55 PM by SHKH. HASAN AL-BANNAH »

Absolutely it is.

1. Allah doesn't have any children or companions and believing in that is considered to be shirk
2. Implying that Trump somehow is a prophet sent down by Allah is heresy since Rasulullah (S) is the final messenger sent down by Him.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2021, 07:56:42 AM »

They claim he rules by divine right. Like a king.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2021, 12:28:51 PM »

The thing that's kind of most telling is the Bible verse cited doesn't really have anything to do with the text. It's just random sort of Biblical sounding word salad with a random verse assuming no one will bother to look it up.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2021, 04:45:08 PM »

It's not blasphemy, but it's implications are a False Doctrine with eternal significance.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2021, 04:49:46 PM »

It's more idiotic than anything.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2021, 04:51:49 PM »

Blasphemy is the one unforgiveable sin.

The Biblical examples of blasphemers all died.  Judas Iscariot.  Ananias and Sapphyra.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2021, 05:34:01 PM »

To Republicans "blasphemy" is now defined as defying Trump. So to them it certainly isn't.

Otherwise I think Joe Republic said it best:

Blasphemy is a silly concept in general, but of course this billboard is completely absurd and very, very American.
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2021, 05:35:00 PM »

The thing that's kind of most telling is the Bible verse cited doesn't really have anything to do with the text. It's just random sort of Biblical sounding word salad with a random verse assuming no one will bother to look it up.

A lot of these extremely political Christians get all of their understanding of the Bible from doomsday cult pastors that speak on nothing but the end times. They care more about placing themselves at the center of the Bible and pretending that the documents are centered around them specifically. I'd be surprised if they had any comprehension of anything biblical aside from maybe familiarity with the order of the beasts and judgement in Revelation.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2021, 06:32:25 PM »

Blasphemy is the one unforgiveable sin.
Well sort of, that passage is misinterpreted. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin. And that's because the Holy Spirit acts as sort of the messenger of God, and brings God to our hearts. When you feel the presence of God, you're being touched by the Holy Spirit. So to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you must cut off your connection to it, and thus God entirely.

However what's misinterpreted by it is that if you later find yourself redeemed and seeking God and Christ again, you did not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. If it can touch you, you left an opening, no matter how small. So there's no real way to know if someone has blasphemed the Holy Spirit on Earth, only God can. It's unforgivable because it's a sort of burning of bridges, and we can't determine if that has happened.

Yeah I don't believe any of this stuff, but all of that seems like a way of getting around a simple statement that's probably problematic for a lot of people.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2021, 08:59:41 PM »

Trumpvangelicals. They worship a lying man more than their “god”.



*accidentally voted no, meant to vote yes*
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2021, 12:27:40 AM »

I'm presuming that "Joint Heirs Romans 8:17" is the name of the group of idiots who paid for the billboard.
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2021, 12:36:54 AM »

Fascists.

Every one of them.

Also technically, they are literally "anti-Christs."
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2021, 10:54:04 AM »


The loonies are out in full force, I see.

That's what's going on here. Loonies and those who are mentally imbalanced like trump. From day ONE I thought he was mentally imbalanced, and now, his cohorts are coming out of the closet and trying to take over the country.

Crazies. That's all they are. Playing games.

Trump is a joke and will get what is coming to him in due time. Meanwhile, we still have to put up with him and his troops of loonies and mentals.

This is not blasphemy. This is pathetic.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2021, 11:19:54 AM »

There's no such thing as blasphemy
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2021, 11:41:26 AM »
« Edited: September 16, 2021, 11:46:39 AM by pbrower2a »

Comparing someone to Jesus Christ is blasphemous. Not even Francis of Assisi, Abraham Lincoln, Sir Winston Churchill, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, or Martin Luther King merits such language. Here is one manifestation of this language is, and it fits One and Only One Person -- if one is a Christian. Handel's Messiah, excerpt -- one of the most glorious works of music ever written.




Donald Trump may not have the most obnoxious personality cult in world history, but it is one of the vilest, and it is particularly horrible because it is in America. Hey -- Churchill at least is the savior -- of Western Christian Civilization!

Half of America already considers Donald Trump an unqualified disgrace.  
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2021, 11:50:18 AM »

Fascists.

Every one of them.

Also technically, they are literally "anti-Christs."

Any leader who creates a personality cult is a potential Antichrist. Even FDR chose to mock a personality cult developing around him.
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2021, 06:37:47 PM »


Yeah, he's the Second Coming, a total Messiah for the ages.

Nothing holier than grabbing a woman's genitals because you think can get away with it.

Nothing holier than screwing a porn star while your wife is at home wondering where you are.

Nothing holier than whining for months about losing an election you didn't lose just because your fragile little baby ego is deflated...

then inciting an insurrection of lunatics to your country's capital, which winds up killing five people, with 638 dopey clown clones getting federal charges.

What can I say?  Don the Con's definitely the Chosen One.  I mean, who else in the world is there besides him anyway?  He basically is the world.  Right, conservatives?

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