Favourite King of Italy?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

That feeling when your thread asks "favourite King of Italy" but most of the debate so far is about French cultural history...

Aurelius or Constantine, I guess?

[Battista Minola 1616]

That feeling when your thread asks "favourite King of Italy" but most of the debate so far is about French cultural history...

Aurelius or Constantine, I guess?

Romulus Augustulus, if we are going there.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'm really curious what you two think of the Plombieres Agreement.

Well, it was necessary to secure Italian unity, so FA on the whole. Napoleon III was a mercenary, and this was his price.

[Battista Minola 1616]

I'm really curious what you two think of the Plombieres Agreement.

What Antonio said, although it would have been beautiful if Garibaldi had been allowed to go into Rome and crush that evil b----rd of Pius IX already in 1860.

[Battista Minola 1616]

You know, despite being who I am, I am not that disappointed that the Kingdom was mostly dominated by (well, anti-clerical) liberals. They did some good things on muh culture wars. I don't think a proto-PPI would have passed a penal code abolishing the death penalty and decriminalizing homosexual activity in 1890, for example. And I'm sure it wouldn't have been more economically populist either. Well, at least not before Rerum novarum and then the activism of people like Romolo Murri (F in chat) and Luigi Sturzo (double F in chat) etc. etc. although I have to wonder whether all these things would have happened in a similar fashion in the alternate world where active Catholic participation in late-19th-century Italian public life had been allowed. Probably not.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You know, despite being who I am, I am not that disappointed that the Kingdom was mostly dominated by (well, anti-clerical) liberals. They did some good things on muh culture wars. I don't think a proto-PPI would have passed a penal code abolishing the death penalty and decriminalizing homosexual activity in 1890, for example. And I'm sure it wouldn't have been more economically populist either. Well, at least not before Rerum novarum and then the activism of people like Romolo Murri (F in chat) and Luigi Sturzo (double F in chat) etc. etc. although I have to wonder whether all these things would have happened in a similar fashion in the alternate world where active Catholic participation in late-19th-century Italian public life had been allowed. Probably not.

Yeah, the Catholic Church in the 19th century was an abjectly evil institution and I don't feel bad for anything that happened to it. I would have been a hardcore anticlerical back then.

[Battista Minola 1616]

You know, despite being who I am, I am not that disappointed that the Kingdom was mostly dominated by (well, anti-clerical) liberals. They did some good things on muh culture wars. I don't think a proto-PPI would have passed a penal code abolishing the death penalty and decriminalizing homosexual activity in 1890, for example. And I'm sure it wouldn't have been more economically populist either. Well, at least not before Rerum novarum and then the activism of people like Romolo Murri (F in chat) and Luigi Sturzo (double F in chat) etc. etc. although I have to wonder whether all these things would have happened in a similar fashion in the alternate world where active Catholic participation in late-19th-century Italian public life had been allowed. Probably not.

Yeah, the Catholic Church in the 19th century was an abjectly evil institution and I don't feel bad for anything that happened to it. I would have been a hardcore anticlerical back then.

I don't feel bad for that either, but I can't totally agree with the rest because if I bashed the Catholic Church so much I would let HenryWallaceVP score points too easily and I can't allow our little Hussite to get away with that.

Actually in the 19th century there was a non-negligible phenomenon of Protestant missionaries making converts among working class people in Italy, for example this guy called Edward Clarke who was a British Baptist minister who spent half of his life here in La Spezia right around the period when it was developing into an industrial city.