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Question: Do you think Clinton was better in 1993-1997 or 1997-2001?
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Samof94
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« on: October 26, 2020, 06:41:06 AM »

Which of Clinton’s terms was better?
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2020, 02:43:41 PM »

Probably the first one.

Second term was overshadowed by his personal problems.

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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2020, 03:31:54 PM »

While Monica Lewinksy is used mostly as a punchline today, let's remember what truly happened.  Bill Clinton admitted to an inappropriate sexual relationship with a college-aged subordinate while he was President of the United States.  That characterization is unique to Clinton in the presidency's 230+ year history.  Even absent the Lewsinky scandal's implications for the Starr investigation or Paula Jones civil case, Clinton's actions represent a disregard for the solemnity of his office and a deep personal failing.  That such a tragedy played out on the national stage should be an embarrassment to every American.  None of y 'all can recognize today thanks to "2020 brain," but Clinton's personal foibles are a major contributing cause to the "celebrification" and debasing of the presidency that ultimately led to Donald Trump.       
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2020, 04:21:41 PM »

Obviously the second.  Just look at his approval ratings and midterm election results (1998 vs 1994).  Clinton was also far more politically astute in his second term (evidenced by high approval ratings).
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2020, 05:33:40 PM »

Obviously the second.  Just look at his approval ratings and midterm election results (1998 vs 1994).  Clinton was also far more politically astute in his second term (evidenced by high approval ratings).
Even with his scandal? He did so some work in Israel at the end though.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2020, 09:29:49 PM »

The one where he actually bothered to attempt to pass things of consequence, in good faith.

Not the one where he decided to do some dime store Reaganomics and waste time shagging someone.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2020, 09:52:26 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2020, 10:04:09 PM by darklordoftech »

The second. An economic boom unlike anything in the history of the human race, crime rates were down, his party gained in Congress in the midterm elections and in the Bush/Gore election (a President’s party had never gained in midterms since FDR’s first term), and Gingrich was toppled. The first term had the Waco Siege, the Hillarycare debacle, the crime bill, the Republican Revolution of 1994, a government shutdown, the V-Chip, telecom deregulation, welfare reform, rhetoric about curfews and school uniforms, a failure to gain in Congress while getting re-elected and a failure to topple Gingrich.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2020, 04:04:16 AM »

While Monica Lewinksy is used mostly as a punchline today, let's remember what truly happened.  Bill Clinton admitted to an inappropriate sexual relationship with a college-aged subordinate while he was President of the United States.  That characterization is unique to Clinton in the presidency's 230+ year history.  Even absent the Lewsinky scandal's implications for the Starr investigation or Paula Jones civil case, Clinton's actions represent a disregard for the solemnity of his office and a deep personal failing.  That such a tragedy played out on the national stage should be an embarrassment to every American.  None of y 'all can recognize today thanks to "2020 brain," but Clinton's personal foibles are a major contributing cause to the "celebrification" and debasing of the presidency that ultimately led to Donald Trump.       

And to think I once considered you a person worthy of having serious conversations with. You're really a shameless hypocrite.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2020, 01:14:28 PM »

The one where he actually bothered to attempt to pass things of consequence, in good faith.

Not the one where he decided to do some dime store Reaganomics and waste time shagging someone.

You know the affair with Lewinsky was mostly during his first term, right?
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2020, 02:08:57 PM »

The one where he actually bothered to attempt to pass things of consequence, in good faith.

Not the one where he decided to do some dime store Reaganomics and waste time shagging someone.

You know the affair with Lewinsky was mostly during his first term, right?

Pretty sure he's referring to the scandal becoming public and the subsequent impeachment
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2020, 05:23:10 PM »

Depends on whether you mean George or DeWitt.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2020, 05:51:11 PM »

Depends on whether you mean George or DeWitt.

I didn't think we were talking about New York state politics, but in that case I'll throw Hillary in the mix.
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2020, 01:40:01 PM »

Second, because he was no longer distracted by the gays-in-the-military issue, because he did not make any appointments to the Supreme Court, and because he worked successfully with Congress at balancing the budget.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2020, 06:38:04 PM »

First easily
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