Where will Biden rank in presidential ranking surveys?

[MR DARK BRANDON]

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[MATTROSE94]

Probably around 12-14 f I have to guess.

[Bootes Void]

i mean we have to wait and see

[7,052,770]

Optimistically, top 10. He probably needs to take the Senate either in January or in the 2022 midterms to have enough accomplishments to get there, although leading us out the pandemic might get him respected enough anyway.

Pessimistically, probably around 20 or so. He'll benefit from fixing Trump's mess at least and actually addressing important issues like climate change and COVID, but he may not get the opportunity to address things like voting reform and inequality.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Probably in the second quadrant, with presidents like James Monroe, William Howard Taft, Grover Cleveland and George H.W. Bush.  It won't be a particularly eventful or accomplished (although this will be through no fault of his own) but he will be a steady hand, a respectable leader, who leads the country the right way, handles the executive branch well, and does things right.

Frankly, he'll probably end up most similar to Barack Obama than anyone else, and I expect his presidency to mirror Obama's with the exception of Obamacare.  Start off with the country in crisis and handle it very well.  Deal the rest of your term with a hostile and intransigent Congress that prevents the country from making any legislative progress at all.  Handle the executive branch well, serve as a steady hand, and generally be remembered as a respectable and solid leader.

That's not to undersell him -- that revitalization of our national character is exactly what America needs right now, far more than any legislative victory.  But I think history books will mostly find his presidency forgettable.  Like Gerald Ford, he'll be overshadowed by his far-more-historically-significant predecessor.  "And after Nixon, Ford was the reset button, and the country got back on track until the next significant event, stagflation and the hostage crisis."

[mardigrappa]

Probably in the second quadrant, with presidents like James Monroe, William Howard Taft, Grover Cleveland and George H.W. Bush.  It won't be a particularly eventful or accomplished (although this will be through no fault of his own) but he will be a steady hand, a respectable leader, who leads the country the right way, handles the executive branch well, and does things right.

Frankly, he'll probably end up most similar to Barack Obama than anyone else, and I expect his presidency to mirror Obama's with the exception of Obamacare.  Start off with the country in crisis and handle it very well.  Deal the rest of your term with a hostile and intransigent Congress that prevents the country from making any legislative progress at all.  Handle the executive branch well, serve as a steady hand, and generally be remembered as a respectable and solid leader.

That's not to undersell him -- that revitalization of our national character is exactly what America needs right now, far more than any legislative victory.  But I think history books will mostly find his presidency forgettable.  Like Gerald Ford, he'll be overshadowed by his far-more-historically-significant predecessor.  "And after Nixon, Ford was the reset button, and the country got back on track until the next significant event, stagflation and the hostage crisis."

This is what I think, until I see how his presidency unfolds.

22-34. I don't know how forgettable Biden's presidency will be, or what it will lay. But I think it definitely may get blended in as part of the era of the early 2000s politics. But crisis could happen. And I think if there is an event similar to a case of Covid, Terrorism, or a chance for unity, that he will be a prevailing president and could be ranked higher just for the sake of his leadership.

[Hammy]

Probably around John Quincy Adams.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Probably in the second quadrant, with presidents like James Monroe, William Howard Taft, Grover Cleveland and George H.W. Bush.  It won't be a particularly eventful or accomplished (although this will be through no fault of his own) but he will be a steady hand, a respectable leader, who leads the country the right way, handles the executive branch well, and does things right.

Frankly, he'll probably end up most similar to Barack Obama than anyone else, and I expect his presidency to mirror Obama's with the exception of Obamacare.  Start off with the country in crisis and handle it very well.  Deal the rest of your term with a hostile and intransigent Congress that prevents the country from making any legislative progress at all.  Handle the executive branch well, serve as a steady hand, and generally be remembered as a respectable and solid leader.

That's not to undersell him -- that revitalization of our national character is exactly what America needs right now, far more than any legislative victory.  But I think history books will mostly find his presidency forgettable.  Like Gerald Ford, he'll be overshadowed by his far-more-historically-significant predecessor.  "And after Nixon, Ford was the reset button, and the country got back on track until the next significant event, stagflation and the hostage crisis."

This is what I think, until I see how his presidency unfolds.

22-34. I don't know how forgettable Biden's presidency will be, or what it will lay. But I think it definitely may get blended in as part of the era of the early 2000s politics. But crisis could happen. And I think if there is an event similar to a case of Covid, Terrorism, or a chance for unity, that he will be a prevailing president and could be ranked higher just for the sake of his leadership.

Biden is certainly more than capable of handling a crisis well.  If he ends up in a Cuban Missile Crisis type situation, I'm sure he would lead us through it, and would be remembered similarly to Kennedy -- for his character and executive leadership in a time of crisis, rather than any legislative accomplishment.

Unfortunately, Biden isn't going to get any credit for cleaning up the enormous mess left to him by Trump, which will constitute the bulk of his administration's work.  Obama doesn't get any credit from the history books for cleaning up W's messes by ending the great recession, rebuilding the American economy and ending the Iraq War.

[brucejoel99]

I could see him go down as one of the most important defining figures of the post-9/11 era, if only because of how much damage his administration will be undoing, both with regards to the nation's recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic specifically as well as from the more broad damage caused by the past 4 years in general (i.e. likely focusing strongly on efforts to re-establish domestic unity & repair our foreign reputation). Obviously not Washington/Lincoln level or anything, but perhaps at least equal to Obama (so, maybe around ~12/13).

If nothing else, I think he'll be pretty well-remembered for his poetic life story of starting his political career at a pretty young age, experiencing significant personal tragedies over the course thereof, & then ending said career as the unifying elder statesman who sought to "restore the soul of our nation," though I'm pretty sure that doesn't really factor into the presidential ranking surveys all that much, since they (obviously) pertain moreso to the success of service as President.

[Rep Jessica]

If he gets an amnesty, stops enforcement of immigration laws, floods this country with millions of refugees and taxes the hell out of everyone making more then 400k per year. Well, he'll probably destroy this country and other countries will probably rank him near the bottom.

[MR DARK BRANDON]

If he gets an amnesty, stops enforcement of immigration laws, floods this country with millions of refugees and taxes the hell out of everyone making more then 400k per year. Well, he'll probably destroy this country and other countries will probably rank him near the bottom.

We get it. You’re upset trump lost

[7,052,770]

If he gets an amnesty, stops enforcement of immigration laws, floods this country with millions of refugees and taxes the hell out of everyone making more then 400k per year. Well, he'll probably destroy this country and other countries will probably rank him near the bottom.

At least you're getting the $400k/year threshold for tax increase right. Most Trumpers insist he'll raise it on everyone.

[charcuterie]

i mean we have to wait and see

[BaldEagle1991]

Too early to say.

Remember people had expectations for W. Bush in 2001...

[Ferguson97]

I’d guess slightly above average, but we have to wait and see.

He will benefit greatly from being compared to Trump.

[One Term Floridian]

Lol let him actually take the oath of office first dammit