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Question: Who will become leader of the Liberal Democrats?
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Sir Menzies Campbell
 
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Simon Hughes
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2006, 05:34:50 AM »


Ming hath announced his frontbench team.

Leader: Sir Menzies Campbell
Chancellor: Vince Cable
Transport: Alistair Carmichael
Home Affairs: Nick Clegg
Trade and Industry: Edward Davey
Culture: Don Foster
Chief Secretary to the Treasury: Julia Goldsworthy
Defence: Nick Harvey
Leader of the House: David Heath
Attorney General & Constitutional Affairs: Simon Hughes
Environment: Chris Huhne
International Development: Susan Kramer
Leader's Chief of Staff: Norman Lamb
Work and Pensions: David Laws
Leader in the Lords: Lord McNally
Foreign Affairs: Michael Moore
Northern Ireland and Wales: Lembit Opik
Chief Whip in Lords: Lord Shutt
Deputy PM: Andrew Stunell
Scotland: Jo Swinson
Education: Sarah Teather
Health: Steve Webb
Deputy Leader: Elected position
Chief Whip : Elected position

Interesting to see that Ming likes the idea of *promoting* deadwood... ahem... and the following hath been fired:

Andrew George, Tom Brake, John Thurso, Sandra Gidley and Norman Baker.
Brake, Thurso and Gidley are being nominated for select committee postings (lol at that old trick). Nothing for George or Baker. Interesting...


Nothing for Featherstone?
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2006, 05:43:10 AM »

No, nothing for Featherbrain (suprising bearing in mind some of the other lightweights he's picked; Harvey? Is this some sort of joke?) IIRC she endorsed Chris Whom, which might explain it.

Out of semi-morbid interest...

Sir Menzies Campbell: safe seat
Vince Cable: safe seat (for him at least)
Alistair Carmichael: safest LibDem seat since the '50's.
Nick Clegg: safe seat
Edward Davey: ed up seat
Don Foster: safe enough for him...
Julia Goldsworthy: marginal seat, only won due to weak Labour and Tory candidates
Nick Harvey: marginal seat
David Heath: comically marginal seat
Simon Hughes: turnout effected seat
Chris Huhne: marginal seat
Susan Kramer: marginal seat
Norman Lamb: safe enough for him by the looks of it
David Laws: fairly safe for now, probably not in the longterm
Michael Moore: seat neither safe nor marginal
Lembit Opik: safe seat
Andrew Stunell: safe seat
Jo Swinson: fairly marginal seat (unlike others is unlikely to fall unless something major changes)
Sarah Teather: seat abolished by boundary changes; will have to run in Labour marginal
Steve Webb: safe seat
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2006, 05:49:14 AM »


No, nothing for Featherbrain (suprising bearing in mind some of the other lightweights he's picked; Harvey? Is this some sort of joke?) IIRC she endorsed Chris Whom, which might explain it.


Indeed it is rather odd... if the next election shows big Tory gains at the LibDem's expense, especially in the south while continued modest progress in traditionally Labour inclined white collar, guardian reading areas (I know there’s not many, but there are still a few that defined the LibDem advance last year) Featherstone would be very well placed for a leadership big against Clegg after Ming goes.

Al, what your view about Hampshire would you agree that it perhaps the one area which is ground zero for “Cameron’s Conservatives” two LibDem marginals that nearly flipped last time, one Labour marginal which saw a strong Conservative challenge and where the same candidate has been re-selected and of course Winchester Smiley ?       

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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2006, 07:45:09 AM »

Indeed it is rather odd... if the next election shows big Tory gains at the LibDem's expense, especially in the south while continued modest progress in traditionally Labour inclined white collar, guardian reading areas (I know there’s not many, but there are still a few that defined the LibDem advance last year) Featherstone would be very well placed for a leadership big against Clegg after Ming goes.

Perhaps, but she'd have to get re-elected first. Hornsey & Wood Green is an increasingly polarised seat (you have the Crouch End/Muesli Hill areas on the one hand, and Wood Green on the other. Were Hornsey a seperate seat, as it was 'til '83, it would be quite safe for the LibDems now) after all.

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It's certainly a very important area for him; Hants is a good example of the sort of place where the Tories have been losing white collar votes to an extent that should be (and probably is) extremely embarrassing. Romsey certainly shouldn't have anything but a Tory M.P.

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Romsey should be a fairly straightforward gain for the Tories next election; they should never have lost it in the first place (it was a safe seat in *1997* afterall...) and it's not as though there's a big Labour vote that might be tempted to go yellow to stop the Tories. Eastleigh is much more complicated o/c; there's still a large Labour vote in Eastleigh itself... but... the fact that Huhne wasn't able to "squeeze" it in '05 makes it extremely unlikely that he'll be able to next time round. The Tories should be able to beat him, but it should be quite close.

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Oddly enough Portsmouth North is the sort of place where Cameron is unlikely to play very well at all; the fact that it warmed to both Syd "Lynch Mobs are Democracy In Action" Rapson and Peter "If you want a n*gger neighbour, vote Liberal or Labour" Griffiths should be a large warning signal. Historically it's tended to be very, very tight (with the exceptions of the '80's and 2001).
Portsmouth South might actually be a better prospect for the Tories, they did better than expected in 2005 IIRC.

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...which becomes better for the LibDems post-boundary changes. That said, they will probably put a lot of effort into ousting Oaten (and will be aware that M.P's hit by sexual scandals tend to be damaged much more than M.P's hit by financial scandals). The new Meon Valley seat will be very close apparently.
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2006, 10:26:21 AM »

17% of Romsey is now in Southampton (up from about half that much pre-boundary review)... I'm not aware of what that area in Southampton is like o/c, but I'm pretty sure that it will cast more LD votes in 09 than it did in 05.
The picture in Portsmouth has been totally muddied by tactical voting for ...what, 10, 20 years? ... now, hard to tell what the city is actually *like* politically now.
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2006, 10:51:08 AM »

17% of Romsey is now in Southampton (up from about half that much pre-boundary review)... I'm not aware of what that area in Southampton is like o/c, but I'm pretty sure that it will cast more LD votes in 09 than it did in 05.

Good point; I'll have to check which wards have been added. O/c the LibDems do a lot better in Southampton locally than nationally for a couple of reasons. That said I wouldn't think that adding more of Southampton would be great news for the Tories...

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Locally or nationally? At Westminster level Portsmouth has been muddied ever since Hancock shocked everyone by winning (as an SDPer) the longtime Tory stronghold of Portsmouth South in the early/mid '80's. And I basically agree; especially as far as the core of the city (ie; the south of it) goes. Paulsgrove et al are still *very* easy to understand...
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2006, 11:04:39 AM »

I haven't a clue what Portsmouth votes like locally, so I was talking about Westminster.
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2006, 11:09:35 AM »

I haven't a clue what Portsmouth votes like locally,

Quite messed up really. Even worse than most local authorities in the Southeast (though not to the extent of Southampton).
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2006, 11:41:15 AM »

Checked this and two Soton wards will be going into Romsey; they are Bassett and Swaything. By the looks of it Swaything is the new ward. Bassett is very middle class (and usually Tory; although the LibDems hold one of three seats, but will probably lose it in May) but Swaything is quite mixed and is one of the LibDem's best wards in the city. It has been held by them for at least 16 years (and was, IIRC, a swing Lib/Con ward before then).
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