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Elizabeth Warren
 
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Bernie Sanders
 
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Other / Not a Dem
 
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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2019, 11:02:59 PM »

I'd rather Warren be the progressive option when the primaries roll around. I feel like if Bernie didn't get in Warren would absorb the vast majority of his support, but I don't think he would as easily absorb hers, in fact I feel like her support would break away in multiple directions. A lot of Warren supporters aren't AOC/Bernie types.
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2019, 11:10:45 PM »

Warren. Bernie is going to be nearly eighty and he's made himself a very divisive figure in the party for his role in shaping anti-Democratic narratives in 2016.

Bernie didn't do anything to promote those. He campaigned for Hillary despite all the evidence showing the primary was rigged.

He stayed in the race for 8 more weeks even though he was for all intents and purposes eliminated after April 26. Giving Trump a decisive 2 1/2 month head start in the GE.

That is dumb. Hillary Clinton had no business being the nominee when she was losing Montana North Dakota etc after effectively securing the nomination.

Sanders probably never should have campaigned like mad for a fraud like Hillary after being cheated & stabbed in the back & Hillary supporters who effectively supported Trump to win by nominating a crap candidate like Hillary should have nothing to say in this regard.

@ Topic - Sanders/Only candidate capable of being the next FDR. Warren will be useful in the Senate as an ally.
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2019, 11:11:06 PM »

I'd rather Warren be the progressive option when the primaries roll around. I feel like if Bernie didn't get in Warren would absorb the vast majority of his support, but I don't think he would as easily absorb hers, in fact I feel like her support would break away in multiple directions. A lot of Warren supporters aren't AOC/Bernie types.

While I'd probably reluctantly vote Warren if Bernie doesn't run, since Gabbard, Yang, and so on don't seem to be going anywhere, this poll here shows that a lower percentage of people go Bernie to Warren than vice versa, and of course Warren has a lower percentage to start with, so Bernie really is the stronger candidate unless things dramatically change.


Some interesting information here.

First ---> Second Choice
-Among voters who chose Biden as their first choice, their second choices are 23% Bernie, 15% Harris, & 9% Warren.
-Sanders supporters go 26% Biden, 16% Warren, 7% Harris.
-Harris supporters go 20% Biden, 14% O'Rourke, 13% Booker.
-Warren supporters go 25% Bernie, 14% Harris, 13% Biden.
-O'Rourke supporters go 20% Sanders, 18% Biden, 14% Harris.

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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2019, 12:23:28 AM »


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That’s not better
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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2019, 12:49:33 AM »


Only if you don't believe in DKIM verification.
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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2019, 12:55:06 AM »
« Edited: February 17, 2019, 02:10:02 AM by The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow »

Definitely Warren. Her rhetoric is slightly less obnoxiously repetitive, she seems to have a better understanding of political convention, Sanders has a more troubling history of racial tone-deafness (not that Warren is free of it either), and I think she’s proven herself to be a more effective lesiglator. I agree that Sanders is more electable, but I don’t think that there’s as big of an electability gap as most poster here are speculating.
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« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2019, 01:39:13 AM »

Sanders.

Warren's probably more agreeable to me overall and a better policy wonk, but she's taking the bait on the small stuff thrown at her, and that's just no good with the cutthroat campaigns today.
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« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2019, 03:10:02 PM »

Sanders/Only candidate capable of being the next FDR.

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« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2019, 06:07:08 PM »

Warren. Bernie is going to be nearly eighty and he's made himself a very divisive figure in the party for his role in shaping anti-Democratic narratives in 2016.

Bernie didn't do anything to promote those. He campaigned for Hillary despite all the evidence showing the primary was rigged.

He stayed in the race for 8 more weeks even though he was for all intents and purposes eliminated after April 26. Giving Trump a decisive 2 1/2 month head start in the GE.

That is dumb. Hillary Clinton had no business being the nominee when she was losing Montana North Dakota etc after effectively securing the nomination.

Sanders probably never should have campaigned like mad for a fraud like Hillary after being cheated & stabbed in the back & Hillary supporters who effectively supported Trump to win by nominating a crap candidate like Hillary should have nothing to say in this regard.

@ Topic - Sanders/Only candidate capable of being the next FDR. Warren will be useful in the Senate as an ally.
This is cultish behavior. Far worse than any of the other Bernie supporters on here.
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2019, 02:08:44 AM »

Warren. Bernie is going to be nearly eighty and he's made himself a very divisive figure in the party for his role in shaping anti-Democratic narratives in 2016.

Bernie didn't do anything to promote those. He campaigned for Hillary despite all the evidence showing the primary was rigged.

He stayed in the race for 8 more weeks even though he was for all intents and purposes eliminated after April 26. Giving Trump a decisive 2 1/2 month head start in the GE.

That is dumb. Hillary Clinton had no business being the nominee when she was losing Montana North Dakota etc after effectively securing the nomination.

Sanders probably never should have campaigned like mad for a fraud like Hillary after being cheated & stabbed in the back & Hillary supporters who effectively supported Trump to win by nominating a crap candidate like Hillary should have nothing to say in this regard.

@ Topic - Sanders/Only candidate capable of being the next FDR. Warren will be useful in the Senate as an ally.
This is cultish behavior. Far worse than any of the other Bernie supporters on here.

But when I tell that Shadows' behavior is curious to say the least and that his IP needs to be checked, my posts are getting deleted.
I guess stating the obvious has become a reportable offense now.   
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2019, 06:48:44 AM »

I prefer Warren, but Sanders is clearly a better candidate
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2019, 07:02:09 AM »

I like Warren better, but I will go with Sanders as I tend to think his chances are better against Trump.
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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2019, 02:42:10 PM »

The actual Democrat.
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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2019, 02:45:27 PM »


So not the one that voted Mondale, Dukaksis, and then Bill Clinton twice? OK.
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2019, 02:47:17 PM »


So blind party loyalty over country? Got it.
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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2019, 06:59:37 PM »


WTF is that supposed to mean?
How is preferring Warren over Sanders is a betrayal of your country?
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2019, 08:21:31 AM »


You don't get to determine who's a Democrat and who isn't when you endorsed Corbett in 2014.

You also don't get to determine who's a Democrat when you parroted Republican talking points to defend him.

(As much as I like Warren, I'm still worried about her taking Trump's bait)
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2019, 08:23:26 AM »

Warren.
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« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2019, 09:10:55 AM »

Warren raised 300K in 24 hours while Sanders raised 6M (Both small donors). Warren is getting around 1/3rd of the the support Sanders is getting (W/o Sanders getting any launch boost).

It is clear that the grassroots support is being Sanders. I don't know if Warren can even compete in Super Tuesday in states like Texas & California because those will be expensive. This is assuming that Warren stays till that because as per current trends, I think Warren drops out after NH.
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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2019, 09:29:35 AM »

Definitely Bernie. I love Liz, I think she would make a great President, but I've contended for a long time that Trump would crush her in the GE and that's because she is too smart to be President. The American people are not willing to listen to a woman, who was a professor at Harvard, talk to them about the economy the way that she does. Many extremely qualified women have run for President and are significantly smarter than the average American, but Liz Warren takes the cake. That's why people only associate her with the racist Pocahontas trope, because they don't want to listen to her talk about the actual issues.

I think Bernie is great too, but unfortunately, he's just better for the state of politics as it is right now. It sucks that it has to be that way, but we're in for a long road before things change.
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