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« on: June 29, 2017, 08:57:03 PM »

I know a lot of people would like to see the names reversed on that ticket, but it seems more likely at this point that Cory Booker would be the nominee than Sherrod Brown. Either way, the focus is on a Booker/Brown ticket, what you think of that, and how you believe it would compete against Trump/Pence. Discuss with maps.
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 10:23:04 PM »
« Edited: June 29, 2017, 10:27:47 PM by Mister Mets »

I probably won't vote for it, but it seems like a strong ticket.

Booker has a balance of executive and legislative experience, as well as an appeal to younger and minority voters.

Brown would add greater Washington knowledge, as well as credibility with progressive activists (some of whom might not like Booker's Wall Street ties) and in the Rust Belt.

Half the time, I'd expect the ticket to win the states Trump won by less than one percent.



Booker/ Brown- 307 Electoral Votes
Trump/ Pence- 231 Electoral Votes

It obviously will depend heavily on outside factors.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 10:44:15 PM »

Mister Mets,

I basically agree with your conclusions. A Booker/Brown ticket would be the best chance of reconstructing the Obama Coalition, which your map indicates. But I'm interested what you think about states like Arizona, Georgia, and Brown's home state of Ohio. Would they be tossups? Or would they still be highly likely to favor Trump?
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 10:45:36 PM »

A non terrible running mate doesn't make Booker worth voting for.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 10:55:48 PM »

Eight years of Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 11:48:07 PM »

If I had to have Booker on the ticket at all, I'd rather him be VP and Brown be President. We need a populist progressive as President after four years of Trump, not an economic "third way" centrist like Booker. None the less, I'd still vote for a Booker/Brown ticket if the alternative is Trump/Pence and I think said ticket would have a good chance of beating Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 04:01:06 AM »

I would vote for it but prefer it to be switched around.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 04:41:44 AM »

Booker/Brown seems like a knock off of Obama/Biden.

I guess it would work.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 07:45:18 AM »

Mister Mets,

I basically agree with your conclusions. A Booker/Brown ticket would be the best chance of reconstructing the Obama Coalition, which your map indicates. But I'm interested what you think about states like Arizona, Georgia, and Brown's home state of Ohio. Would they be tossups? Or would they still be highly likely to favor Trump?
I think they would be likely to favor Trump, rather than highly likely.

There's no particular strength Booker/ Brown would have in Arizona over another Democratic ticket.

It would be a strong ticket in North Carolina, given the high number of voters who are African-American or like the political establishment, though I don't see any indication they're 4 points stronger than Hillary Clinton/ Kaine, a ticket that was a good fit for the state already.

They might do a bit better in Georgia than previous Democratic tickets due to shifting demographic trends, and Booker might help with turnout, but I don't think it's more than 5 points worth.

Trump won Ohio by more than 8 points, so Brown's probably not going to make up the difference by being on the bottom of the ticket.

Hillary won the national vote by 2.1%, so the way I figure it if Booker wins by 5 points, which would be a solid outcome, he might not carry any of the states you mentioned.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 11:29:32 AM »

I probably won't vote for it, but it seems like a strong ticket.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2017, 10:49:22 AM »

I agree with one of my fellow forum users on this one.
Booker/Brown is a pretty strong ticket-but I won't vote for it.
Still, New Jersey/Ohio-I think I can live with that.
Lutheran/Baptist by belief.
Not a bad ticket really but I am proud to be a Trump fan.
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2017, 12:32:48 PM »

Brown would be a good choice for Booker. It would help him with Rust Belt voters and those who see Booker as a neoliberal, corporate shill.
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2017, 02:51:07 PM »

Booker would have to sell out all principle to appeal to brown's populism. Get a better VP.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2017, 07:45:33 PM »

The chances of me voting 3rd party for the first time in 2020 are going up and up.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2017, 07:50:27 PM »

The chances of me voting 3rd party for the first time in 2020 are going up and up.

You mean to tell me that Trump isn't flooding the pews of your church with new converts like you thought?
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2017, 04:23:41 PM »

I think Brown is a slightly stronger candidate than Booker, although adding Brown to Booker's ticket would help address the problem areas Booker would likely have, namely trying to win back white voters in the Midwest. Personally, I think it won't be all that difficult for most potential Democratic candidates to win back MI/WI/PA given the current political climate, but Booker might have the hardest chance out of all of them, being from the coast and likely to be bombarded with complaints of his corporatism (I see Biden, Franken, Harris, Sanders, etc. all having an easier time). Fortunately, that's exactly where Brown would likely resonate the most.

Booker to me just seems like a weaker Harris. I think he would have a good shot in Arizona, North Carolina, and maybe Georgia, but I see Harris doing better in all three of those states and having more security in winning back MI/WI/PA.

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2017, 05:09:42 PM »


This, though I think Sherrod Brown is incredibly overrated and wouldn't be Booker's running mate in this scenario.

Anyway, the battleground map:



Booker 268
Trump 188
Tossup 82

That is way too favorable to Booker.
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2017, 05:18:41 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2020, 04:43:57 PM by morgankingsley »

Anything that is not Warren is fine with me.

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