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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2014, 12:19:57 AM »

Rick Scott is no better than Charlie Crist. Really the only real choice Floridians have is Adrian Wyllie.
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2014, 12:21:23 AM »


Sorry, the "both sides do it" false equivalency threw me off.
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2014, 06:45:17 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2014, 06:58:08 AM by Mechaman »

How much did they pay the black girl to be in the video?
Everyone in the video was being paid. They're actors.
This too Tongue.

But I can't stand when I hear people-especially vocally "moderate" Republicans who make cynical comments about the lack of minority support for the GOP and then get snarky with candidates like Rand Paul, etc, who are trying to actually expand the Republican brand. But I’m bellyaching about a different subject now.


By the way, how is a guy who opposed the Civil Rights Act at one point and is anti-immigration reform "trying to actually expand the Republican brand"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aDEoTarH2c

http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/25/politics/paul-urban-league/

You've got me all wrong.

I actually like Rand Paul (unlike his father Ron), but I don't believe that he would make any inroads with minorities if he ran for POTUS in 16'.

The fact that he wants to demilitarize the police and called out unfair sentencing on minorities might help a little, but the fact that he literally opposed the Civil Rights Act at one point and is anti immigration reform (polls have been showing Rand doing terribly with Hispanics) will stop him from making any significant inroads.


On Civil Rights Act: This might be a hard one to get over admittedly.  However, let's not pretend like the usual Republican choice would do that much better, especially when Paul is one of a very few politicians in the country who is actually attacking the law and order mentality that has destroyed the black community.  Sure, he might be lucky to get 20% of the vote, but he sure as hell can do a lot better than John McCain and Mitt Romney's 5% or whatever the hell they got.
Not many people will pay attention to things he said in like 2009 when he was a gynecologist when as a US Senator he has been campaigning on addressing things like civil liberty violations or what have you.

As for anti-immigration reform?  That was like a year ago, every Google result I see now is Rand Paul saying he was in favor of it even after Eric Cantor's defeat.  I'm not sure where you got this idea. . . . . .

I'm not really a fan of Rand Paul, but I do agree with the spirit of Sanchez's posts.  "Moderate" Republicanism has a very strange and bizarre habit of attacking people that you would think would be natural allies.
I believe a case study needs to be done on this phenomena.
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2014, 01:24:40 PM »

Gotta love Atlas, where a thread about a creepy criminal who currently serves as Florida's governor can be turned into a discussion about Rand Paul's outreach to minorities. Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2014, 02:27:08 PM »

Rick Scott is no better than Charlie Crist. Really the only real choice Floridians have is Adrian Wyllie.

With Sanchez drifting more and more Republican and myself shifting more and more to the left, fun to have another L-FL.
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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2014, 04:50:54 PM »

How much did they pay the black girl to be in the video?
Everyone in the video was being paid. They're actors.
This too Tongue.

But I can't stand when I hear people-especially vocally "moderate" Republicans who make cynical comments about the lack of minority support for the GOP and then get snarky with candidates like Rand Paul, etc, who are trying to actually expand the Republican brand. But I’m bellyaching about a different subject now.


By the way, how is a guy who opposed the Civil Rights Act at one point and is anti-immigration reform "trying to actually expand the Republican brand"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aDEoTarH2c

http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/25/politics/paul-urban-league/

You've got me all wrong.

I actually like Rand Paul (unlike his father Ron), but I don't believe that he would make any inroads with minorities if he ran for POTUS in 16'.

The fact that he wants to demilitarize the police and called out unfair sentencing on minorities might help a little, but the fact that he literally opposed the Civil Rights Act at one point and is anti immigration reform (polls have been showing Rand doing terribly with Hispanics) will stop him from making any significant inroads.


On Civil Rights Act: This might be a hard one to get over admittedly.  However, let's not pretend like the usual Republican choice would do that much better, especially when Paul is one of a very few politicians in the country who is actually attacking the law and order mentality that has destroyed the black community.  Sure, he might be lucky to get 20% of the vote, but he sure as hell can do a lot better than John McCain and Mitt Romney's 5% or whatever the hell they got.
Not many people will pay attention to things he said in like 2009 when he was a gynecologist when as a US Senator he has been campaigning on addressing things like civil liberty violations or what have you.

As for anti-immigration reform?  That was like a year ago, every Google result I see now is Rand Paul saying he was in favor of it even after Eric Cantor's defeat.  I'm not sure where you got this idea. . . . . .

I'm not really a fan of Rand Paul, but I do agree with the spirit of Sanchez's posts.  "Moderate" Republicanism has a very strange and bizarre habit of attacking people that you would think would be natural allies.
I believe a case study needs to be done on this phenomena.

Oh sorry. I never realized that Rand Paul changed his mind on the issue of immigration reform.

Nevertheless, polls have still showed him doing TERRIBLY with Hispanics, and Clinton could attack Rand Paul as an inconsistent "flip-flopper" on the issue of immigration reform.

Again, I like Rand, but I don't believe that he will make any inroads with minorities.
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