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« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2014, 10:58:19 PM »

The Republicans are just silly at this point, and Cathy's inane speech shows this. The Democrats are the real threat because they allow for complacence and have deluded most potential socialists into supporting modest reform/thinking Democratic reforms are remotely sufficient.
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« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2014, 10:59:53 PM »

The Republicans are just silly at this point, and Cathy's inane speech shows this. The Democrats are the real threat because they allow for complacence and have deluded most potential socialists into supporting modest reform/thinking Democratic reforms are remotely sufficient.

The best strategy of the progressives/social democrats is to build an infrastructure within the Democratic Party rather than ceaselessly denouncing the party and running third-party candidates that leads to accusations of vote-splitting.
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« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2014, 11:18:08 PM »

The Republicans are just silly at this point, and Cathy's inane speech shows this. The Democrats are the real threat because they allow for complacence and have deluded most potential socialists into supporting modest reform/thinking Democratic reforms are remotely sufficient.

The best strategy of the progressives/social democrats is to build an infrastructure within the Democratic Party rather than ceaselessly denouncing the party and running third-party candidates that leads to accusations of vote-splitting.

The Populists tried it and were assimilated by the end of the first decade of the 20th century. And who cares if the vote is split? Christie or Walker won't pursue a meaningfully different agenda (especially on foreign policy) from Hillary Clinton. Democrats deserve to lose for their lies.
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« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2014, 11:23:33 PM »

The Republicans are just silly at this point, and Cathy's inane speech shows this. The Democrats are the real threat because they allow for complacence and have deluded most potential socialists into supporting modest reform/thinking Democratic reforms are remotely sufficient.

The best strategy of the progressives/social democrats is to build an infrastructure within the Democratic Party rather than ceaselessly denouncing the party and running third-party candidates that leads to accusations of vote-splitting.

The Populists tried it and were assimilated by the end of the first decade of the 20th century. And who cares if the vote is split? Christie or Walker won't pursue a meaningfully different agenda (especially on foreign policy) from Hillary Clinton. Democrats deserve to lose for their lies.
It's nearly delusional to think the policies of Scott Walker and Hillary Clinton would be the same. Wake up. Look at how the parties have split on nearly every issue, become more polarized and ideological than ever before.
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« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2014, 11:25:55 PM »

The Republicans are just silly at this point, and Cathy's inane speech shows this. The Democrats are the real threat because they allow for complacence and have deluded most potential socialists into supporting modest reform/thinking Democratic reforms are remotely sufficient.

The best strategy of the progressives/social democrats is to build an infrastructure within the Democratic Party rather than ceaselessly denouncing the party and running third-party candidates that leads to accusations of vote-splitting.

The Populists tried it and were assimilated by the end of the first decade of the 20th century. And who cares if the vote is split? Christie or Walker won't pursue a meaningfully different agenda (especially on foreign policy) from Hillary Clinton. Democrats deserve to lose for their lies.
It's nearly delusional to think the policies of Scott Walker and Hillary Clinton would be the same. Wake up. Look at how the parties have split on nearly every issue, become more polarized and ideological than ever before.

Both parties support the continued siphoning of wealth to their corporate masters and imperialism abroad. At best they use wedge issues like abortion or gun control to keep the proletariat divided.
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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2014, 11:36:21 PM »

The Populists tried it and were assimilated by the end of the first decade of the 20th century.

Which in the long term brought us the New Deal and Great Society. Things take time.
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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2014, 11:51:22 PM »

She came of to me as incredibly patronizing. It sounded like she was talking to a 3-year old.
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« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2014, 12:27:39 AM »

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« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2014, 01:01:31 AM »

I've always been a fan of McMorris Rodgers, so was skeptical when I heard she was chosen. It wasn't a knockout, but then again, when is a SOTU response? I thought she did very well  - I think it helped her more than it hurt. Her voice varied too much, but I thought she came across as pretty warm and intelligent.
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« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2014, 01:23:48 AM »

I've always been a fan of McMorris Rodgers, so was skeptical when I heard she was chosen. It wasn't a knockout, but then again, when is a SOTU response? I thought she did very well  - I think it helped her more than it hurt. Her voice varied too much, but I thought she came across as pretty warm and intelligent.

She sounded like she was talking to a kindergartener, IMO. And she talked about her family a bit too much, though if she's trying out for VP somewhere along the line, that might have been why.
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« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2014, 02:29:06 AM »

She might have over done it on trying for the personal touch, but clearly that is something the Republicans failed at in 2012 obviously.

It was short on detail, but considering it was just about ten to fifteen minutes, it is difficult to do both at the same time and they selected the former over the latter.

I liked it, but would have preferred to see if it were longer and thus possibly more detailed.
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« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2014, 02:41:09 AM »

The only part that significantly bugged me was near the middle: she started talking about how Republicans do have ideas and solutions, but then went into another biographical section.
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« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2014, 02:45:08 AM »

Also, I liked her response on immigration emphasizing the importance of legal immigration without getting led astray or making a gaffe Steve King style. She came close to making a link with jobs, but I believe that was the start of another topic. That might have been intentional to start off next topic with something like "In an era of high joblessness" or whethever exactly, immediately after talking about immigration, and thus letting people connect the two without doing it herself.
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