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Question: Who should lead Labor for this Parliament?
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Bill Shorten		  
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Anthony Albanese		  
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« on: September 23, 2013, 01:00:57 AM »
Three days.

Imagining myself as a Laborite: Shorten.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 01:08:49 AM »
Albanese
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 01:37:20 AM »
I do have a vote and should be receiving my ballot shortly.

My concern, first and foremost is who can cut through and also cut the crap. I couldn't give a toss about left-right factional BS.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 01:48:54 AM »
I'd vote for Shorten. Albanese must be stopped at all costs.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 04:50:58 AM »
Albo.

Shorten's just boring (and it's superficial things like that which matter in leadership elections).
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 05:44:49 AM »
You can't spell Labor without Albo! Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 06:46:22 AM »
Who's the more left-wing of the two?
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 07:13:31 AM »
Quote from: hifly15 on September 23, 2013, 01:48:54 AM
I'd vote for Shorten. Albanese must be stopped at all costs.

Quite frankly, knowing it would upset you is cause enough to support Albanese - oh and Shorten supports marriage equality.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 07:30:38 AM »

Albanese (Polnut, can you please confirm this?)
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 07:31:52 AM »
Quote from: Fmr. President & Senator Polnut on September 23, 2013, 07:13:31 AM
Quote from: hifly15 on September 23, 2013, 01:48:54 AM
I'd vote for Shorten. Albanese must be stopped at all costs.

Quite frankly, knowing it would upset you is cause enough to support Albanese - oh and Shorten supports marriage equality.

I know Shorten supports it but Albanese would make it so much more of an issue.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 07:34:26 AM »
And interestingly Paul Howes said his support for gay marriage would cause rifts in the Labor Right and accordingly decided not to contest the imminent senate vacancy in NSW.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 08:12:12 AM »

Albanese is in the Socialist Left faction - though don't get carried away by the title (Gillard was the same).
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2013, 09:38:05 AM »
Shorten.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 11:11:47 AM »
Albanese, if only to "make it so much more of an issue".
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 12:38:00 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2013, 04:30:31 PM »
Albanese is from the left faction - but as mentioned, it says much less than it seems. Find an issue where these two actually have significant differences?

Oh and Shorten wont have a choice on marriage equality, the internal pressure to bash Abbott over the head with it is enormous. Paul Howes' commentary is reflective of the leadership of the NSW Right - namely crackpots like Joe de Bruyn whose personal issues with homosexuality led him to hold the national conference hostage.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2013, 05:17:47 PM »
Albanese is closer to me politically and I think he'd make a better opponent for Abbott than boring Bill.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2013, 06:51:54 PM »
Quote from: Northeast Rep. Doctor Cynic on September 23, 2013, 05:17:47 PM
Albanese is closer to me politically and I think he'd make a better opponent for Abbott than boring Bill.

That's the issue - I know quite a few natural Shorten supporters who are leaning Albanese, purely for that reason. Abbott can be given no space or quarter, they don't see Shorten as a fighter.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2013, 05:53:27 PM »
Albo pretty easily.  Hoping he sticks to his left-wing roots, unlike Gillard.
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2013, 09:34:36 AM »
Albanese wins 20-5.
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