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« Reply #75 on: March 10, 2011, 10:12:03 PM »


1. He just got into office.
2. I'd be willing to say that a recall effort against him wouldn't even get to 45% in a vote.

Gray Davis had just been re-elected, so argument 1 fails.


Gray Davis won against a nobody with less than 50% and had been in office for 5 years. The logic is different for these two situations.
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« Reply #76 on: March 10, 2011, 11:45:43 PM »

He hasn't done anything illegal, so no.

I'm not sure about illegal but saying he 'considered' sending in trouble makers to infiltrate the protests so he could get the police to break them up should be grounds for some kind of investigation. Of course I'd like to think most intelligent people were aware that sort of thing was routine anyway.

He considered it, but he didn't go through with it, if presidents can get away with breaking the law, then a governor can say "Oh, thought about it, but didn't pan out".

No, he can't.

Considering =/= doing.  That's a stretch to even get a conspiracy charge.

You're saying it's okay for an elected leader to consider that kind of actions? What if Obama considered having the National Guard shoot live bullets at a Tea Party rally?




Infiltration is not execution. One would be naive to think that Obama didn't do more than to not even "consider" infiltrating tea party groups. He or his aparatus probably did.

Uh...?
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« Reply #77 on: March 12, 2011, 10:31:45 AM »

No, Wisconsin fully deserved to feel a consequences of it's stupidity.

This, although I think that Grey Davis was impeached for less.

Gray Davis wasn't impeached and I wouldn't consider it to be for less. Surely there's a reason California's Democratic establishment was glad to be rid of him?

Crap, typo, I meant recalled! Sad
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« Reply #78 on: March 12, 2011, 11:05:59 AM »

Absolutely -just don't count on it ever happening.  Tongue
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« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2011, 07:27:07 PM »

He hasn't done anything illegal, so no.

I'm not sure about illegal but saying he 'considered' sending in trouble makers to infiltrate the protests so he could get the police to break them up should be grounds for some kind of investigation. Of course I'd like to think most intelligent people were aware that sort of thing was routine anyway.

He considered it, but he didn't go through with it, if presidents can get away with breaking the law, then a governor can say "Oh, thought about it, but didn't pan out".

No, he can't.

Considering =/= doing.  That's a stretch to even get a conspiracy charge.

You're saying it's okay for an elected leader to consider that kind of actions? What if Obama considered having the National Guard shoot live bullets at a Tea Party rally?



It's not okay... but you seemed to be implying it was illegal.  There's nothing illegal about thinking.
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« Reply #80 on: March 12, 2011, 08:11:33 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2011, 08:13:14 PM by Lunar »

Is the "planting troublemakers" consideration even considered illegal anywhere in the media?  I've only seen other things:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/wisconsin_dems_demand_probe_of.html
http://uppitywis.org/blogarticle/walker-busted-illegal-campaign-coordination-koch-and-doing-it-ta

Although the first URL does mention a specific [ambiguous] legal complaint about the "troublemakers" bit, it doesn't seem very clear.

I'm not sure how hard the law would be even if he DID specifically plant troublemakers (I'm sure it'd be illegal somewhere), but merely considering it?  Like Inks said ... consideration isn't criminal.  I'm completely ignorant legally, but would it be a criminal offense for a governor to speculate on exchanging political favors for money but ultimately rejecting it, all on the record?
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« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2011, 10:06:38 PM »

Like I said, it was stupid he did it, and even dumber to admit to it.  But stupidity doesn't equal criminal activity.
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« Reply #82 on: March 12, 2011, 10:40:04 PM »

It does if you aren't white though.
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« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2011, 12:36:31 AM »

It does if you aren't white though.

How so?
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« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2011, 02:30:38 AM »

Definitely, him and Rick Scott are the top priority to be ousted. They'll get whats coming to them come election time though.
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« Reply #85 on: March 13, 2011, 04:55:33 PM »


Non-whites have to be very clever to avoid being arrested, Inks.
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« Reply #86 on: March 14, 2011, 01:58:03 AM »

It does if you aren't white though.

     What exactly does that have to do with the topic at hand?
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