Will Ed Miliband still be Labour leader at the 2015 election?
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« on: September 26, 2010, 08:20:05 AM »

Lean no. His support's too weak, especially from the MPs.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2010, 08:27:18 AM »

I hope so. This not the time for self-indulgence.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2010, 09:10:07 AM »
« Edited: September 26, 2010, 09:46:39 AM by EM 4 PM »

I hope so. This not the time for self-indulgence.

True. There's also the question of who would actually challenge him. David wouldn't; he wouldn't challenge Gordon Brown (something I bet he now regrets), nevermind his own brother. The only people I could see throwing their hat in the ring would be Ed Balls, or he'd push Yvette Cooper to do it.

Either way, EdM doesn't seem to be in the best position if anyone challenges his leadership, but hey, what do I know? He's only been leader for 23 hours after all.

The old Brown/Blair divisions, clearly, aren't gone. David would be clever to hang around for a few years yet. MiliD for Shadow Chancellor!
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 09:37:06 AM »

Lean no. His support's too weak, especially from the MPs.

Depends on a lot of factors, but he's not that secure.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2010, 09:45:33 AM »

Lean no. His support's too weak, especially from the MPs.

Depends on a lot of factors, but he's not that secure.

Seeing the results, David calling himself "the unity candidate" seems to ring more true in the respect that he easily won the MPs/members, he wouldn't have to be dealing with leadership coups every other week like Gordon Brown (and, as I expect, his brother).
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2010, 09:58:16 AM »
« Edited: September 26, 2010, 10:03:36 AM by Sibboleth »

Seeing the results, David calling himself "the unity candidate" seems to ring more true in the respect that he easily won the MPs/members

Yet every set of preferences went against him (the fault of a piss-poor campaign strategy that alienated supporters of other candidates).

The good news (for everyone) is that factional patterns weren't extremely obvious in support patterns for each candidate in any section. This isn't 1980.

Regardless, all attention of that kind now switches to another scene... the Shadow Cabinet Elections.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2010, 10:04:59 AM »

He will have the most reviled cuts in decades to campaign against. For as long as he restricts himself to pulling a 'cameron' and not getting too specififc on the issues the polls should go his way, and his party's support with them.
That's my guess anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2010, 10:50:13 AM »

These aren't the post-2001 Tories. Regaining government at the next election is eminently possible. Labour won't sacrifice that.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2010, 11:01:38 AM »

Let's have a bit of a reality check here. I would say that Ed Miliband will lead the Labour Party into the next election unless he gets struck by lightning or is diagnosed with a terminal illness. The fact is that unlike the Tories in the UK, the British Labour Party has no history or tradition of dumping leaders who have never even led their parties through even one election. In fact the Labour has little tradition of dumping leaders at all. They stuck with Callaghan, they stuck with Foot, they stuck with Kinnock and as we all know no one was willing to pull the trigger on Brown even when his deficiencies became obvious.

Its true that Ed Milliband got less support from MPs and MEPs - but its not as if his support in the PLP was insignificant - he had well over 100 MPs backing him - so big deal
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2010, 11:04:40 AM »

Yes, barring something unforeseen.

I think Ed Balls will be the next leader, though. He ran a pretty good campaign, and having another Miliband as leader would make things look too one-sided.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 11:05:07 AM »

I imagine so.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 07:57:09 PM »

Five years, good god. I'd be incredibly bored, being designated for an election way off in the future.
Anyway, I'd imagine that he would be, barring scandal or death. Of course, it is five years away.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 08:08:11 PM »

Don't think too one dimensionally, he doesn't have to be taken down in one challenge, if he's forced into a "back me or sack me" moment, and wins (which he would) it would open the door for David to come to the rescue.


Assuming that sort of scenario comes up... It just doesn't have to be one fell swoop to take him down.
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