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Question: Whether it is John McCain or Barrack Obama, how many terms will the next president serve?
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opebo
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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2008, 11:44:53 AM »

All scary stuff you just said. Obama = FDR sends major chills down my spine.

Haha.. I'm glad.  I have to admit Obama = FDR gives me quite a thrill.
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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2008, 12:54:01 PM »

The problem with comparing the next president with Hoover is that the Economy was already going down when the next President will enter office. With Hoover the economy was relativly strong when he entered office so the American people blamed him. So long as the economy is improving by the end of the next President's term he will have a good chance at being reelected.
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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2008, 02:50:09 PM »

The problem with comparing the next president with Hoover is that the Economy was already going down when the next President will enter office. With Hoover the economy was relativly strong when he entered office so the American people blamed him. So long as the economy is improving by the end of the next President's term he will have a good chance at being reelected.

Correct.  And to extend your point - Hoover not only presided over the shift from good times to incredibly bad times, he then hung around, unwanted, for something like two and a half years, if I have my dates correct.   People just couldn't wait to see the back of him, not unlike Bush.
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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2008, 07:40:49 PM »

Only one, I doubt either could gain a second term.
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2008, 10:33:49 PM »

The problem with comparing the next president with Hoover is that the Economy was already going down when the next President will enter office. With Hoover the economy was relativly strong when he entered office so the American people blamed him. So long as the economy is improving by the end of the next President's term he will have a good chance at being reelected.
This is true as long as you ignore what was going on in agriculture during the mid-to-late 20s.
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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2009, 01:15:31 AM »

Obama=FDR? I don't expect any major war.  Besides, the institutions for preventing a 1929 recession from becoming a three-year meltdown already exist (Social Security, Medicare, FDIC insurance).

Major reformer? Then he is Teddy Roosevelt, and he will get a 1904-like landslide. If he plays things safe and gets away with it he's Dwight Eisenhower and we will see an electoral map very similar to that that Eisenhower had in 1956, only with parties inverted.

Any GOP nominee will have to live down the residual contempt for George W. Bush.

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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2009, 09:33:43 AM »

Obama is a one termer. Even if he succeeds somewhat he'll spend all his political capital to get some semblance of success.
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2009, 10:29:58 AM »

Obama is a one termer. Even if he succeeds somewhat he'll spend all his political capital to get some semblance of success.

You're pretty sure of yourself more than 3 years before the election.
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2009, 03:37:01 PM »
« Edited: March 30, 2009, 11:56:36 PM by pbrower2a »

Obama is a one termer. Even if he succeeds somewhat he'll spend all his political capital to get some semblance of success.

Defeated incumbents of the last 100 years are, in reverse chronological order:

GHWB

Carter

Ford

Hoover

Taft

In chronological order:

1. 1912. William Howard Taft, the odd man out in an election that featured a well-respected former President and a candidate who had strong regional support. 

I can see only one obvious analogy between 1912 and 2012, and that is the last two digits.

2. 1932. Herbert Hoover entered the Presidency to high expectations and Americans who expected far better endured the worst economic meltdown in history.

It's highly unlikely that the economic meltdown that began in 2007 under Dubya will last five years. Enough of FDR's programs remain in existence, and enough of them could be revived in all but name, to prevent such bad economic times.

3. 1976. Gerald Ford became President through the back door -- replacing first a corrupt Vice-President who had to resign, and then a President who resigned due to abuse of power. Not at all charismatic, and hit by economic distress not of his culpability, he barely lost to Jimmy Carter.

Barack Obama, unlike Gerald Ford, did not become President through the political back door.

4. 1980. Jimmy Carter got caught in a political transition in which the South started to go Republican before the North went Democratic. He barely won in 1976, and then against a weak opponent. In 1979 an anti-American regime overthrew an American ally in Iran and took Americans hostage. In 1980 he faced a shrewd, confident opponent with well-honed rhetoric... and lost.

Barack Obama succeeded a President largely discredited for causes other than economic distress. He won decisively against the strongest candidate that the GOP then had. Add to this Barack Obama is at least as adept in political dealings and in getting his message across as was Ronald Reagan, making a comparison to Jimmy Carter absurd.

5. 1992. GHWB was the first Vice President to succeed the President since Martin Van Buren succeeded Andrew Jackson in 1836. Except for some successes in foreign policy, the elder Bush got the same results -- including a financial panic and electoral defeat.   

Obama follows a catastrophic failure of the Presidency, and if the Republicans have a charismatic challenger in the wings in 2012, then that person will have to come out of nowhere fast.

... If Dreadful Dubya could be re-elected, then it won't take much for Obama to win re-election.   

 


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