was the New Deal directly comparable to the Italian Fascist economic model?
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« on: October 31, 2007, 08:01:16 PM »

was the New Deal directly comparable to the Italian Fascist economic model?
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2007, 08:37:49 PM »

Most assuredly, but the aspects of the New Deal most directly analogous to it such as the NRA and AAA were struck down by the Supreme Court.
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2007, 09:12:30 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 05:45:47 AM »
« Edited: November 01, 2007, 12:10:36 PM by opebo »

Yes, in the sense that it was an essentially right-wing (liberal) attempt to support capitalism by patching up its failures without upending the highly unequal pyramidal power-heirarchy that is so inherent to that system's purpose.

Of course the New Deal failed to fully replace the penal system of control with an 'insurance' or 'assurance' based system, leaving us with elements of both (though we still suffer from mostly the former).   In fairness those who cobbled it together appeared to have only the most awkward understanding of what they were doing, and were greatly resisted by the nincompoops on the extreme right who appeared to have no understanding of either their opponents or even their own postion.  I always wonder about that sort of thing - is it ignorance or just part of the propaganda?

Whether the Italian model did a better job I do not know, and it is a moot point as that fascism was destroyed by the current one after just a decade or so in operation.

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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 09:03:26 AM »

But the New Deal didn't make the trains run on time.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2007, 08:18:07 PM »

Partially but it was a poorly executed mishmash of Italian Fascist economics, populism and some elements of social democracy. If it had focused in one direction instead of trying to be all three it would have worked better. That said, Reagonomics would have worked well in the 30s(a different environment than the 80s. The 80s were poor timing for it) and possibly better than the new deal.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2007, 08:31:31 PM »

But the New Deal didn't make the trains run on time.

Neither did the Italian Fascist economic model..

http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2007, 08:37:10 PM »

Both are only as comparable to each other as they are to any other Corporatist economic system, or anything that combines state planning with private enterprise..
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2007, 02:22:44 PM »

Yes, they are comparable. The comparison's result being that (despite some similarities o/c) they were very very different.
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