Would you be willing to be roommates with a prostitute?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I remember asking this to opebo, though his "no" answer did make sense from his perspective.

For me: option 3.

[Torie]

No.  That is a really dumb idea.

[opebo]

No.  That is a really dumb idea.

It wouldn't be such a bad idea if you were her pimp.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Why do all prostitutes have to be females?

[Eraserhead]

Probably not.

[Link]

I remember asking this to opebo, though his "no" answer did make sense from his perspective.

For me: option 3.

It depends.  How does she pay her half of the rent

[Dancing with Myself]

Yes, but as long as the pimp does not come around and bother me. Call me crazy but a rooming with a young prostitute would seem fun, we could hang out and all that.

[Lief 🗽]

How would a prostitute roommate doing incalls be any different (for you, the roommate) from a non-prostitute roommate who brings people back home and has sex with them with no exchange of money?

[TJ in Oregon]

I answered no because I live in Ohio and prostitution is illegal here, but my answer would be "only if she doesn't make incalls" if I lived somewhere it's legal, assuming of course that she is an otherwise good roommate and cleans up after herself, doesn't come back puking drunk all the time and make a mess or wake me up, pays her fair share of the rent/untilities on time, is respectful toward me, etc. I don't require my roommates to be perfect people, just that they're tolerable to live with.

It would lead to some ideological tension, though. Perhaps not too much more than I am used to if it's the right person? It might be weird in the very least.

[Badger]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts. No moral judgment here, just simple facts based on a decade and a half in criminal law, and having represented dozens in my years as a public defender. (Memo to Hollywood: Real life hookers don't look like Julia Roberts; they look more like Richard Gere).

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts. No moral judgment here, just simple facts based on a decade and a half in criminal law, and having represented dozens in my years as a public defender. (Memo to Hollywood: Real life hookers don't look like Julia Roberts; they look more like Richard Gere).

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

So why have none of the "erotic masseuses" I've seen been anything like that?

[patrick1]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts. No moral judgment here, just simple facts based on a decade and a half in criminal law, and having represented dozens in my years as a public defender. (Memo to Hollywood: Real life hookers don't look like Julia Roberts; they look more like Richard Gere).

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

Badger, I'm afraid you may run afoul of BRTD's own hooker with a heart of gold fantasies.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts. No moral judgment here, just simple facts based on a decade and a half in criminal law, and having represented dozens in my years as a public defender. (Memo to Hollywood: Real life hookers don't look like Julia Roberts; they look more like Richard Gere).

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

Badger, I'm afraid you may run afoul of BRTD's own hooker with a heart of gold fantasies.

No reality based off personal experience. Have you ever been to a "happy ending" massage parlor patrick?

[Badger]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts. No moral judgment here, just simple facts based on a decade and a half in criminal law, and having represented dozens in my years as a public defender. (Memo to Hollywood: Real life hookers don't look like Julia Roberts; they look more like Richard Gere).

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

So why have none of the "erotic masseuses" I've seen been anything like that?

Many are Asian operated, no? There you'll find the same economic and social dynamics similar to Thailand where sex slavery (borderline serfodom or just blantent slavery) are at play. Otherwise I hate to let you know but the other exception is likely hardcore drug abuse.

People don't do this s%it willingly.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts. No moral judgment here, just simple facts based on a decade and a half in criminal law, and having represented dozens in my years as a public defender. (Memo to Hollywood: Real life hookers don't look like Julia Roberts; they look more like Richard Gere).

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

So why have none of the "erotic masseuses" I've seen been anything like that?

Many are Asian operated, no?

Well, I refuse to go to those. Those tend to be nasty and exploitive human trafficking places yes. But the one that used to be two blocks from my apartment was mostly staffed by white hipster-ish girls for whom I never noticed any scars or visible signs of drug abuse. I remember one telling me about her old job, she was a receptionist for a homeowners' insurance company and well, she got bored.

There's an interesting blog written anonymously by a girl who works at one of those places. She actually has a bit on it encouraging anyone to boycott Asian massage parlors for that reason.

[patrick1]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts. No moral judgment here, just simple facts based on a decade and a half in criminal law, and having represented dozens in my years as a public defender. (Memo to Hollywood: Real life hookers don't look like Julia Roberts; they look more like Richard Gere).

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

Badger, I'm afraid you may run afoul of BRTD's own hooker with a heart of gold fantasies.

No reality based off personal experience. Have you ever been to a "happy ending" massage parlor patrick?

You are not exactly peering into someone's soul when getting a handy are you? And you are a sucker if you believe half of what these girls are selling.  Drug habits arent sexy so most dont exactly advertise it... unless someone actually has drugs on them.

IIRC, never been to a parlor itself. I did plenty of other dumb things in my youth...

Also big mistake to compare a rub and tug to wider prostitution.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Drug habits arent sexy so most dont exactly advertise it... unless someone actually has drugs on them.

or if the drug use leaves visible signs on the body, which would be all the more obvious if that person is completely naked.

[patrick1]

Drug habits arent sexy so most dont exactly advertise it... unless someone actually has drugs on them.

or if the drug use leaves visible signs on the body, which would be all the more obvious if that person is completely naked.

There are plenty of drugs and ways of ingesting them that do not make it readily apparent that the person is an addict.  There are plenty of people who at the time seem relatively stable and high functioning with habits.

And again, you projecting your experiences of getting a handy from some emo chick to the wider world of prostitution is ridiculous.

[opebo]

No. Pretty Woman fantasies and whatever "system" Thailand has set up aside, Prostitutes are near universally hardcore drug addicts.

Bottom line: Prostitutes are so desperately craving money for their habit that they enter that line of work. Room with one and your s#%t will be gone within a week.

So why have none of the "erotic masseuses" I've seen been anything like that?

Many are Asian operated, no? There you'll find the same economic and social dynamics similar to Thailand where sex slavery (borderline serfodom or just blantent slavery) are at play. Otherwise I hate to let you know but the other exception is likely hardcore drug abuse.

People don't do this s%it willingly.

Ok, nearly everything stated above is crap.  In fact there is no 'system' in Thailand - precisely the point is that there is no system - just women are relatively free to provide sexual services for money.  Sex slavery is a great rarity here - basically it is just another job to sell sex.  Many do it 'freelance' where there isn't even any middle-man or third-party, and many do it for business where they have the final say on what they do.

 For example, in nearly every venue, the girl may refuse a customer if she doesn't want to deal with him or doesn't want to work at that particular moment.  I know this because I have had it happen to me numerous times, and the salesman or staff often looked at her angrily when she did this, but they could say or do nothing, and she totally ignored his reaction.  She simply had the right to refuse.  (lest you make jokes, I am actually a very decent-looking, reasonably fit, clean and well-groomed man in my early 40s - when I am refused it is invariably simply anti-foreigner bias, though not racism - they usually believe foreigners engage in intercourse for an excessively long time - anything above 15-20 minutes - and are excessively well-endowed, which can lead to discomfort).

There certainly are plenty of people in Thailand who use drugs, but nowhere near the level of the US of course.  Drug use does exist among prostitutes here, however, the vast majority of them do not use drugs, and most get into the job simply because it is very big money, and very easy money.  They typically make about 5 to 10 times what they could make at a normal lower-skilled job.  

One thing to remember - the income of a young and good looking working-girl in Thailand is comparable to my income as a lecturer (in many cases far greater), and thus even a drug habit would not be a difficult expense for them.  (the drugs of choice here are 'ya-ba' and 'ice' - to be honest I'm not completely sure what they are, but I do know the price - only about $10 per dose, and they typically report only using one or two doses a day, so its a minor expense to a high-earning working girl.. quite different from cocaine based addictions).

I would generally agree that a prostitute would not make a good roommate in the US, where such people often have severe personal problems, but in Thailand they're usually not so bad at all.  They're simply working-class people, and I have to admit I would probably not find living with working class people very comfortable, but it would hardly be intolerable.

The main word I hear Pattaya girls use to describe their lifestyle is Freedom.

[Middle-aged Europe]

A street hooker? No.

An "escort". Maybe.


Gotta have standards here.

[Gustaf]

For the reasons given by people living in the real world, no. A friend of mine went to London and rented out her apartment in Stockholm in the meantime. After a period of time the police contacted her to inform her that they had arrested the girl for running a prostitution service out of the flat. I found that a bit funny.

[Tender Branson]

Most of the girls I know from the university dorms here are some kind of prostitutes anyway, chicks who f**k around with anybody after some house/dorm parties, so yes.

[opebo]

For the reasons given by people living in the real world, no. A friend of mine went to London and rented out her apartment in Stockholm in the meantime. After a period of time the police contacted her to inform her that they had arrested the girl for running a prostitution service out of the flat. I found that a bit funny.

Actually it is more of a tragic injustice..