Which of the of following views are antisemitic?

[TheReckoning]

Which of these views are, in your eyes, antisemitic?

[Sumner 1868]

2 and 10-13 for certain. 5 depends on what we mean by Christian country.

[dead0man]

1,3-7, 10-11 may or may not be factual, but believing in them doesn't make one a bigot.  You can believe 8 (and 9) is wrong without being a bigot, but only if you also disagree with all the other countries formed in the decades after WWII (and we know you don't, 'cause you're a bigot).  12 and 13 are clearly bad too.

[patzer]

1, 2, 8, 9, 13 are pretty classic examples of Israel being held to a double standard and clearly antisemitic. And 4 and 12 are obviously wrong too.

[Antonio the Sixth]

A lot of these are somewhat context-dependent but 2, 4 and 10 are like. The bedrock of antisemitism historically. Also voted 9 and 13 because this rhetoric is never wielded against any other state, so it's pretty clear they only say it because it's Israel.

3, 8, 11 and 12 could also be evidence of antisemitism in a given context, but aren't inherently so. 11 is especially tricky because historically Jews have been disproportionately involved in socialist movements, and fascists have used this fact as a justification for their antisemitism, but obviously it's possible to know that history and disapprove of socialism without being an antisemite.

[Atlas Force]

2-4 and 8-13

[RI]

Thinking most Jewish people go to Hell for having the wrong religion is only anti-Semitic if you don't hold other religions to the same standard.

[buritobr]

Voted for 3, 4, 9, 12, 13, the obivous ones.
10 and 11 might be, depending on the person who speaks.
There others are really not.

There is no antisemitism in the claim that the creation of Israel in 1948 was not a good idea. Even Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt defended this claim. But considering abolishing Israel in 2024 a serious idea, I think there is antisemitism. The creation of many nation-states were "unfair", since new settlers occupied lands and original population was harmed. Why only Israel should cease to exist?

Even if you disagree in the use of the G-word to describe what is happening in Gaza, it is no antisemitism. It would be only a bad use of a word.

[Progressive Pessimist]

All except 1, 5, 6, 7, and 8.

[GeneralMacArthur]

It may surprise you to learn that I voted conservatively on this and only picked 4:

Belief that Jews hold extremely disproportionate power: this is way too close to the Jewish Octopus trope to not be anti-semitic.

Belief that Jews go to hell:  Obvious

Belief that Israel should be abolished
"Death to Israel":

these are similar and it's not inherently anti-semitic to hate a country so much that you want it to cease to exist and all its residents expelled, but I find that the people who feel this way overwhelmingly only feel this way about Israel, either explicitly because they hate the Jews, or because they derive their views from someone else who does in fact hate the Jews.  Israel is uniquely singled out for this kind of extremely hateful "Death to X country" "X country must be destroyed" belief in a way that no other country in history has ever really had to endure, and I feel very strongly that this would not be the case if it were not the world's sole Jewish state trying to co-exist alongside neighbors who have devoted their entire identities to its destruction and the death of its inhabitants.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Only 2, 9, 10, and 13 are inherently antisemitic (or nearly so), but many-to-most of the others are antisemitic more often than not. 4 comes very close to being inherently antisemitic, but I don't think it quite clears the bar, for the reason RI gave.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

2, and 9-13.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

NOTA. To the ones with current majority support:

#2 is true. The State of Israel has a GDP per capita of $55,000. World GDP per capita is $13,000. Thus, the State of Israel/Israelis have disproportionate economic wealth (“power.) Additionally, the State of Israel has nuclear weapons and a large military. Thus, particularly when combined with its large economy, it commands a disproportionate influence in world politics.

#4 is in my view wrong, but not anti-Semitic. Plenty of religions say that non-believers or even imperfect practitioners go to hell — it’s only anti-Semitic if you single Jews out.

#9 is also wrong, but not intrinsically anti-Semitic. For example, if a communist believes that all culturally Western people should be expelled from the Middle East/places outside of Europe, it would not be anti-Semitic for them to support doing so to Israelis/abolishing Israel too, unless they had particular malice towards Israel for it being Jewish motivated by hatred for Jews.

The factual claims in #10 and #11 are both true. A disproportionate share of great capitalist economists have been Jews, such as Milton Friedman and David Ricardo. Also some important capitalist politicians, such as Barry Goldwater or (bleh) Disraeli. On the other hand, so have a disproportionate share of prominent socialists (Marx, Lenin, etc). This circle can be squared because Jews are far more likely to be ideological than other groups (almost all that I can think of, actually.) Even on a population level, Jews are probably more likely to be capitalist in a substantial number of countries (Brazil, for example, or interwar Poland to my understanding) and more likely to be socialist in others (Russia under the Tsars).

Personally, I think that #11 is true and bad, and that #10 is true and good, but there's no reason why believing either is anti-semitic.

#12 most Jews globally do support Israel's actions in Gaza. This is the one I'm most surprised by people answering yes on -- my justifications for 10 and 11 are somewhat tendentious, although I do believe they're true. But it's pretty inarguable that most Jews support Israel's actions? Which do constitute violence against Palestinians, even if the Palestinians in question are bad people (members of Hamas) and Israel does its best to avoid violence against Palestinians who are innocent of Hamas's crimes. Are people interpreting this as referring to violence against all Palestinians?

#13 isn't anti-semitic for the same reasons #9 isn't.

[TheReckoning]

I’m really confused by people voting for #3. How is being an atheist/polytheist/Christian/Muslim inherently anti-Semitic? Being any of these necessitates believing that Judaism’s claims are factually incorrect.

[All Along The Watchtower]

2, and 9-13.

This, yeah.

[wnwnwn]

1 Not exactly.
2 Yes, specially considering the UN votes on Israel
3 No
4 No
5 No
6 No
7 It depends on the wording. The anti Iron Dome crowd sirely leans antisemitic (outside the isolationists btw)
8 Do you refer to antizionists? Most of them, but some not.
9 Same
10 Yes...
11 Same
12 Yes
13 Yes

What about From the River to the See?
I think it is, all thigns considered, but not all who say it are antisemitic

[Dr. Cynic]

2 and 10-13 are certainly. I'm not certain that just believing that Judaism is an incorrect religion and that all Jews go to hell is antisemitic in and of itself, since I suppose one can believe those things without hating Jewish people.

[bagelman]

4 and 9-13. Disagree on #2.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

In itself I'd just say #13. Some others would indicate extremely likely antisemitism if held in combination.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

I voted for 2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, 12, and 13. I was torn on all the options between 8 and 13. I think typically if you say that "All Jews" support something and that thing is bad, there's nuance to that as far as economic systems go, but I still find it gross to generalize about an entire group like that. 9 & 13 I waffled on because it depends why someone is saying "death to Israel", but the motivations no matter what are probably not rooted in anything good. However, a person can believe that Israel is illegitimate without being anti-Semitic provided that they just believe that no state should have an official religion.

#5 is just Christian nationalist sh-t, which isn't specifically anti-Semitic but can be in some forms. 1/6/7 are all within the realm of reasonability and can be argued without anti-Semitism built in.

[Atlas Force]

2-4 and 8-13

After thinking it over more, moving 3 and 4 into “depends on context” territory