Which party could fix police-community relationships while having law and order?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

And you still haven’t given any legal basis for your claim that what the officers did was unconstitutional. 

 I did. It's called the Fourth Amendment.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

And I already explained (multiple times) why the dog sniff search did not violate the suspect’s Fourth Amendment rights in this matter.  You have yet to dispute the legal points I made about that which, again, is interesting...

[GP270watch]

You absolutely called me a racist

  I did not.

 You got upset earlier in the thread because you thought I edited one of your post when I was just shortening a large wall of text. But you're going to tell me what I accused you of?

 I don't know but that seems hypocritical to me. As I stated I have no idea why you viewed a video that was so obviously a poor police interaction a different way than I did. I simply wondered why. You brought all that other stuff into it. And then claimed you were some great criminal justice reform advocate which based on your justifications of said video seems highly dubious.

 In the video one of the officers basically admit that they will perform that same procedure multiple more times the rest of the day(I believe he said 30). How is that possible to know if the stops are based on real violations? Because they're not based on real violations, let's be real about what's going on here, it's a pretense to commit illegal searches because it's been deemed a "violent area".

[GP270watch]

And I already explained (multiple times) why the dog sniff search did not violate the suspect’s Fourth Amendment rights in this matter.  You have yet to dispute the legal points I made about that which, again, is interesting...

 There's nothing to dispute because I've already stated I don't agree with you. And I have stated that the use of dog sniffs is a bogus police tactic(again no better than a coin toss from all evidence studied, and shown to be even more inaccurate when the race of the suspect is non-white). Because it's currently being used by some police departments and upheld in a legal grey area doesn't mean it's not unconstitutional.

 I think it clearly violates the Fourth Amendment and as we move towards more data based and analytical policing the practice of dog sniffs will not pass scientific scrutiny as I already stated multiple times.

 But it's ok you see nothing wrong with this and the 30 more times this will be done in that community later that day. Because I'm sure that will go a long way to improving police community relations. When they're out there doing that every single day. But you're for criminal justice reform and more fairness!

You don't have any credibility man.

[GP270watch]

Settlement reached in traffic stop lawsuit where former LMPD officer violated teen's rights

 The LMPD officer then frisked and handcuffed Lea while his vehicle was searched by K-9 and officers. Nothing illegal was found inside the car and he was issued a citation for the improper turn.

The lawsuit, filed in 2019, argues Crawford unlawfully conducted a pat-down search of Lea, prolonging the traffic stop beyond its initial purpose, which Stivers agreed violated his fourth amendment rights.

Stivers ruled that there was no reasonable suspicion of criminal activity that justified detaining Lea beyond the traffic infraction investigation.

As part of the ruling, the judge dismissed the lawsuit against other officers named in the suit.

Officials said the city is ordered to pay $375,000 to Lea -- with his attorney confirming the settlement amount to WHAS11 News on Friday morning.

 Bumping this to show how slowly the wheels of justice turn even when people face clear violations of their rights. Thankfully for this young man the interaction was filmed and he wasn't baited or enraged by the dumb officer that was clearly violating his rights and trying to antagonize him.

[jojoju1998]

In Japan, they have this thing called a police box, or Koban, where the police are like friendly neighborhood helpers or guides; finding lost stuff, walking school children accross the street, and promoting community outreach. And I think it helps create a sense of respect between police and the community they serve. In America, at least where I live, no one sees a police, until something happens, and they randomly show up.

We do also need higher standards for Police. A person trained to practice and employ the law has less mandated training than a hair dresser in California. That is crazy. This is not a trade job. It's a profession, and it should be treated as such.

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

The GOP

lol

[Meclazine for Israel]

Most communities prefer not to be burgled, robbed, stripped, raped and strangled in the first place.

Hence community relations would benefit from effective Policing in tge first instance.

Community relations would flow so much easier after that.

[AtorBoltox]

The Democratic Party, but not the progressive faction. People who whined about the 'trauma' and 'brutality' of the police clearing of Columbia despite there not being a single injury do not have a serious place in this conversation.

[HisGrace]

The Democratic Party, but not the progressive faction. People who whined about the 'trauma' and 'brutality' of the police clearing of Columbia despite there not being a single injury do not have a serious place in this conversation.

And October 7 was apparently not brutal or traumatic.