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« on: December 06, 2022, 09:05:05 PM »

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/local/2018/07/03/akron-man-admits-killing-father/10596705007/
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2022, 09:25:26 PM »

I voted yes.  Don't see how it serves either individual justice or the well-being of the community to have him in prison. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2022, 01:00:17 AM »

No.

I'm certainly not going to shed tears over this monster, but self-defense is very distinct from revenge killing, and this case seems to be a clear-cut case of a revenge killing. I don't think making exceptions for revenge killings where we think the victim deserved it is particularly useful. Where do you draw the line?

That said, I believe that the 18-year sentence is too harsh given the circumstances. I believe that a 5-year sentence with mandatory counseling would be more appropriate.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2022, 01:21:53 AM »
« Edited: December 07, 2022, 01:25:39 AM by LBJer »

No.

I'm certainly not going to shed tears over this monster, but self-defense is very distinct from revenge killing, and this case seems to be a clear-cut case of a revenge killing. I don't think making exceptions for revenge killings where we think the victim deserved it is particularly useful. Where do you draw the line?

You draw the line the same way people draw lines about other things--by making case by case judgements.  

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2022, 01:45:40 AM »

The individual deserves treatment for the years of abuse, not prison time in an environment similar to what he’s gone through.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2022, 03:25:57 AM »

The individual deserves treatment for the years of abuse, not prison time in an environment similar to what he’s gone through.

Extrajudicial killing is bad, actually.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2022, 07:33:39 AM »

ya can't let people go around "settling scores" with violence and murder, but obviously this is a special case.  There is no correct answer here.  How long does someone actually serve in Ohio for 18 years?  18 years seems far too long.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2022, 10:40:24 AM »

The individual deserves treatment for the years of abuse, not prison time in an environment similar to what he’s gone through.

Extrajudicial killing is bad, actually.

If you say that it's good for the state to kill someone for a specific reason, and then say it's automatically bad for a private person to kill someone for that same reason, and that if they do they deserve to spend years or decades in prison, you're basically saying might makes right. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2022, 11:04:31 AM »

The individual deserves treatment for the years of abuse, not prison time in an environment similar to what he’s gone through.

Extrajudicial killing is bad, actually.

If you say that it's good for the state to kill someone for a specific reason, and then say it's automatically bad for a private person to kill someone for that same reason, and that if they do they deserve to spend years or decades in prison, you're basically saying might makes right. 
The treatment should take about place in a mental facility until he is right of mind and has vocational skills to get back at his feet.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2022, 12:13:03 PM »

The individual deserves treatment for the years of abuse, not prison time in an environment similar to what he’s gone through.

Extrajudicial killing is bad, actually.

If you say that it's good for the state to kill someone for a specific reason, and then say it's automatically bad for a private person to kill someone for that same reason, and that if they do they deserve to spend years or decades in prison, you're basically saying might makes right. 

Actually, I oppose a private citizen killing this guy for the exact same reason I would oppose the state killing this guy- killing people is almost always wrong. But I thought extrajudicial killing is more universally condemned than the death penalty. Guess not.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2022, 12:54:07 PM »

He should have only spent a year at most in jail. I don't believe the abusive sicko should be dead, but the horrible things the defendant faced at his fathers hands is a huge mitigating factor.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2022, 11:32:02 AM »

He should serve a jail sentence, but it should not be, well, 20 years...
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