Opinion of Abdullah

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

HP, for claiming Saudi Arabia has more religious freedom than Sweden.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Massive FF, and a Good Guy.

That you're not All In with Biden on Ukraine does not make you an HP.  That you don't consider President Zelenskyy to be any more worthy of our support now then President Thieu of South Vietnam was in 1970 does not make you an HP.  I don't know Abdullah's views on all things Ukraine and it may well be different from mine (I am cautiously supportive, but I'm not willing to give Zelenskyy a blank check.) but you're not an HP just because you're not in lockstep with the consensus.

I would ask this of our younger posters.  If this war in Ukraine becomes a matter of American Boots on the Ground, are YOU going to be enlisting in the military to help America prosecute this foreign war?  You tell me; the Vietnam War lasted a long time, and so did Afghanistan.  Your generation will be paying this price; are you fine with that in as "whatever it takes" sense?

That happening and the current state of things are quite different.

Once upon a time during the JFK years, we called our troops in Vietnam "advisors".

We also don’t have advisors in Ukraine so the constant comparisons to Nam is baseless. Also if you want to know why Zelensky should be getting more aid than S. Vietnam how about the key fact that Ukraine unlike South Vietnam actually want our help? Vietnam and even Afghanistan failed because the local population didn’t have any real desire to fight North Vietnam/Taliban and in cases preferred their rule over the governments we back. That is simply not the case in Ukraine

I assure you that Premier Ky and President Thieu of South Vietnam wanted our help.  

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Massive FF, and a Good Guy.

That you're not All In with Biden on Ukraine does not make you an HP.  That you don't consider President Zelenskyy to be any more worthy of our support now then President Thieu of South Vietnam was in 1970 does not make you an HP.  I don't know Abdullah's views on all things Ukraine and it may well be different from mine (I am cautiously supportive, but I'm not willing to give Zelenskyy a blank check.) but you're not an HP just because you're not in lockstep with the consensus.

I would ask this of our younger posters.  If this war in Ukraine becomes a matter of American Boots on the Ground, are YOU going to be enlisting in the military to help America prosecute this foreign war?  You tell me; the Vietnam War lasted a long time, and so did Afghanistan.  Your generation will be paying this price; are you fine with that in as "whatever it takes" sense?

That happening and the current state of things are quite different.

Once upon a time during the JFK years, we called our troops in Vietnam "advisors".

Objection. Relevance?

Our involvement in Vietnam was escalated in stages, not all at once.

The young Red Avatars who are the most hawkish on Ukraine will be the War Wimps of the 2040s, while their peers will be the Boots on the Ground.

1. We don't have any advisors on the ground

2. How dare you question the patriotism of certain users because of their political affiliation or imply they are cowards who wouldn't serve if they had to. Active-duty military voted for Biden, for goodness sake.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Massive FF, and a Good Guy.

That you're not All In with Biden on Ukraine does not make you an HP.  That you don't consider President Zelenskyy to be any more worthy of our support now then President Thieu of South Vietnam was in 1970 does not make you an HP.  I don't know Abdullah's views on all things Ukraine and it may well be different from mine (I am cautiously supportive, but I'm not willing to give Zelenskyy a blank check.) but you're not an HP just because you're not in lockstep with the consensus.

I would ask this of our younger posters.  If this war in Ukraine becomes a matter of American Boots on the Ground, are YOU going to be enlisting in the military to help America prosecute this foreign war?  You tell me; the Vietnam War lasted a long time, and so did Afghanistan.  Your generation will be paying this price; are you fine with that in as "whatever it takes" sense?

That happening and the current state of things are quite different.

Once upon a time during the JFK years, we called our troops in Vietnam "advisors".

Objection. Relevance?

Our involvement in Vietnam was escalated in stages, not all at once.

The young Red Avatars who are the most hawkish on Ukraine will be the War Wimps of the 2040s, while their peers will be the Boots on the Ground.

1. We don't have any advisors on the ground

2. How dare you question the patriotism of certain users because of their political affiliation or imply they are cowards who wouldn't serve if they had to. Active-duty military voted for Biden, for goodness sake.

People have openly questioned mine and I haven't heard a peep from you.

Would you serve?  You're a few years away from actually making that decision.  Would you enlist if there were an active war that American troops were deployed to.

[John Dule]

Massive FF, and a Good Guy.

That you're not All In with Biden on Ukraine does not make you an HP.  That you don't consider President Zelenskyy to be any more worthy of our support now then President Thieu of South Vietnam was in 1970 does not make you an HP.  I don't know Abdullah's views on all things Ukraine and it may well be different from mine (I am cautiously supportive, but I'm not willing to give Zelenskyy a blank check.) but you're not an HP just because you're not in lockstep with the consensus.

I would ask this of our younger posters.  If this war in Ukraine becomes a matter of American Boots on the Ground, are YOU going to be enlisting in the military to help America prosecute this foreign war?  You tell me; the Vietnam War lasted a long time, and so did Afghanistan.  Your generation will be paying this price; are you fine with that in as "whatever it takes" sense?

That happening and the current state of things are quite different.

Once upon a time during the JFK years, we called our troops in Vietnam "advisors".

Objection. Relevance?

Our involvement in Vietnam was escalated in stages, not all at once.

The young Red Avatars who are the most hawkish on Ukraine will be the War Wimps of the 2040s, while their peers will be the Boots on the Ground.

1. We don't have any advisors on the ground

2. How dare you question the patriotism of certain users because of their political affiliation or imply they are cowards who wouldn't serve if they had to. Active-duty military voted for Biden, for goodness sake.

People have openly questioned mine and I haven't heard a peep from you.

Would you serve?  You're a few years away from actually making that decision.  Would you enlist if there were an active war that American troops were deployed to.

Keep asking this all you want, it’s still irrelevant so long as no one here supports actually putting US troops in Ukraine.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Massive FF, and a Good Guy.

That you're not All In with Biden on Ukraine does not make you an HP.  That you don't consider President Zelenskyy to be any more worthy of our support now then President Thieu of South Vietnam was in 1970 does not make you an HP.  I don't know Abdullah's views on all things Ukraine and it may well be different from mine (I am cautiously supportive, but I'm not willing to give Zelenskyy a blank check.) but you're not an HP just because you're not in lockstep with the consensus.

I would ask this of our younger posters.  If this war in Ukraine becomes a matter of American Boots on the Ground, are YOU going to be enlisting in the military to help America prosecute this foreign war?  You tell me; the Vietnam War lasted a long time, and so did Afghanistan.  Your generation will be paying this price; are you fine with that in as "whatever it takes" sense?

That happening and the current state of things are quite different.

Once upon a time during the JFK years, we called our troops in Vietnam "advisors".

Objection. Relevance?

Our involvement in Vietnam was escalated in stages, not all at once.

The young Red Avatars who are the most hawkish on Ukraine will be the War Wimps of the 2040s, while their peers will be the Boots on the Ground.

1. We don't have any advisors on the ground

2. How dare you question the patriotism of certain users because of their political affiliation or imply they are cowards who wouldn't serve if they had to. Active-duty military voted for Biden, for goodness sake.

People have openly questioned mine and I haven't heard a peep from you.

Would you serve?  You're a few years away from actually making that decision.  Would you enlist if there were an active war that American troops were deployed to.

It's something I'll look at when I graduate, depending on college options/ASVAB scores. Obviously if I did join the military I'd try for an ROTC scholarship but it is up in the air.

If the US was pulled into a war in Ukraine that calculus would be roughly the same.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I always appreciated how he was a Florida poster who took my dragging of his state with a sense of humor.

I'm a little disappointed at how anti-choice he's revealed himself to be though.

[Schiff for Senate]

FF in spite of whatever political disagreements we probably have. I can’t say I’m very fond of the poster whose sig is being talked about, but I don’t find the opinion expressed in that sig particularly objectionable.
Criticism of the Israeli government’s policies is not inherently anti-Semitic, even if said poster is an anti-Semite and/or a really bad troll.

Agreed with the first and third sentences, but as for the second, the signature is bad because it’s drawing a false equivalency between Ukraine-Russia and Israel-Palestine.

[Badger]

Massive FF, and a Good Guy.

That you're not All In with Biden on Ukraine does not make you an HP.  That you don't consider President Zelenskyy to be any more worthy of our support now then President Thieu of South Vietnam was in 1970 does not make you an HP.  I don't know Abdullah's views on all things Ukraine and it may well be different from mine (I am cautiously supportive, but I'm not willing to give Zelenskyy a blank check.) but you're not an HP just because you're not in lockstep with the consensus.

I would ask this of our younger posters.  If this war in Ukraine becomes a matter of American Boots on the Ground, are YOU going to be enlisting in the military to help America prosecute this foreign war?  You tell me; the Vietnam War lasted a long time, and so did Afghanistan.  Your generation will be paying this price; are you fine with that in as "whatever it takes" sense?

That happening and the current state of things are quite different.

Once upon a time during the JFK years, we called our troops in Vietnam "advisors".

Totally the same obviously. Rational and genius take per usual.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Massive FF, and a Good Guy.

That you're not All In with Biden on Ukraine does not make you an HP.  That you don't consider President Zelenskyy to be any more worthy of our support now then President Thieu of South Vietnam was in 1970 does not make you an HP.  I don't know Abdullah's views on all things Ukraine and it may well be different from mine (I am cautiously supportive, but I'm not willing to give Zelenskyy a blank check.) but you're not an HP just because you're not in lockstep with the consensus.

I would ask this of our younger posters.  If this war in Ukraine becomes a matter of American Boots on the Ground, are YOU going to be enlisting in the military to help America prosecute this foreign war?  You tell me; the Vietnam War lasted a long time, and so did Afghanistan.  Your generation will be paying this price; are you fine with that in as "whatever it takes" sense?

That happening and the current state of things are quite different.

Once upon a time during the JFK years, we called our troops in Vietnam "advisors".

Totally the same obviously. Rational and genius take per usual.

As I care deeply for the future of America's young adults I sincerely hope I'll be proven wrong.  I've not been to date.

[John Dule]

Fuzzy once again cowardly avoids responding to any of my counterarguments. Why do I even bother refuting his points when I know he’ll just ignore the hard questions?

[Hindsight was 2020]

Fuzzy once again cowardly avoids responding to any of my counterarguments. Why do I even bother refuting his points when I know he’ll just ignore the hard questions?

This is the exact reason why whenever I bother to react to a post he makes it normal just mocking his nonsense. Back when I first joined I tried to engage in his arguments but then I quickly realized he just ignores it if he can’t refute the counter arguments so found my route of mostly ignoring but when have to engage just mock more productive