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Best: Narendra Modi (India)
 
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Best: Imran Khan (Pakistan)
 
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Best: Sheikh Hasina (Bangladesh)
 
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Best: KP Sharma Oli (Nepal)
 
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Best: Jigme Wangchuck (Bhutan)
 
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Best: Mahinda Rajapaska (Sri Lanka)
 
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Worst: Narendra Modi (India)
 
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Worst: Imran Khan (Pakistan)
 
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Worst: Sheikh Hasina (Bangladesh)
 
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Worst: KP Sharma Oli (Nepal)
 
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Worst: Jigme Wangchuck (Bhutan)
 
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Worst: Mahinda Rajapaska (Sri Lanka)
 
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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2021, 10:20:13 AM »

I'm really unfamiliar with Nepalese politics, but Oli seems like a cruddy leader but potentially the best of a catastrophically bad bunch.

Modi, Khan, and Hasina are all obviously not viable (though I don't know Bangladeshi politics as well as I should), but Wangchuck and Rajapaksa also have their own horrifying human rights violations. There's a reason why the United States has so many Lhotshampa refugees, and of course Rajapaksa's handling of the end of the civil war was exceedingly vile.
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2021, 10:23:08 AM »

I don't know about Sri Lanka being islamophobic but after all those terror attacks, non-believers needing to be punished and refusal to accept more woman's rights, LGBTQ rights and other human rights, being islamophobe is the equivalent of being antinazi or antifascist, not antisemitist. But things like these cannot be said anymore since it's not politically correct. But apparently it's not a western thing. It's an indian thing, it's a chinese thing, it's an asian thing, it's a latin thing.

Apparently all muslims hate non-muslims and all non-muslims hate muslims (or a majority in both cases). You have to wonder why that is.

If you spread hate, don't be surprised if you get some hate back.

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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2021, 10:27:01 AM »

Now seriously I actually voted worst for Imran Khan; Pakistan seems like the worst ran country out of all of those and Khan isn't exactly improving it.

As for best I voted for the Bhutan guy only cause I heard he dealt with covid and the vaccination process extremely well for such an underdeveloped country. Other than that Bhutan is a "hermit kingdom" (not quite North Korea but not that far either) so not much else to say.
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2021, 12:58:36 PM »

Mahinda Rajapaska is indeed the worst, Sri Lanka’s democracy may not last long and he’s began oppressing the minorities again.

Possibly the best is still pretty bad. KP Oli, while social democratic in policy, is Nepal’s Trump in his gaffes and selling out to the Hindutva military establishment. Covid management has been also terrible. Still, normal Nepalese life expectancy has risen under the Communist Party at large while he was PM, although now that he’s broken the party up that may change.
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2021, 03:43:39 PM »

I don't know about Sri Lanka being islamophobic but after all those terror attacks, non-believers needing to be punished and refusal to accept more woman's rights, LGBTQ rights and other human rights, being islamophobe is the equivalent of being antinazi or antifascist, not antisemitist. But things like these cannot be said anymore since it's not politically correct. But apparently it's not a western thing. It's an indian thing, it's a chinese thing, it's an asian thing, it's a latin thing.

Apparently all muslims hate non-muslims and all non-muslims hate muslims (or a majority in both cases). You have to wonder why that is.

If you spread hate, don't be surprised if you get some hate back.


So much for the tolerant "left" some people claim to be.
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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2021, 04:05:21 PM »

I don't know about Sri Lanka being islamophobic but after all those terror attacks, non-believers needing to be punished and refusal to accept more woman's rights, LGBTQ rights and other human rights, being islamophobe is the equivalent of being antinazi or antifascist, not antisemitist. But things like these cannot be said anymore since it's not politically correct. But apparently it's not a western thing. It's an indian thing, it's a chinese thing, it's an asian thing, it's a latin thing.

Apparently all muslims hate non-muslims and all non-muslims hate muslims (or a majority in both cases). You have to wonder why that is.

If you spread hate, don't be surprised if you get some hate back.


So much for the tolerant "left" some people claim to be.

Dude, you're the one who pretty much defined as a proud islamophobe, and using some absolutely awful arguments for it, without anyone prompting you to do it
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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2021, 04:51:27 PM »

Apparently all muslims hate non-muslims and all non-muslims hate muslims (or a majority in both cases).

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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2021, 05:10:19 PM »

I don't know about Sri Lanka being islamophobic but after all those terror attacks, non-believers needing to be punished and refusal to accept more woman's rights, LGBTQ rights and other human rights, being islamophobe is the equivalent of being antinazi or antifascist, not antisemitist. But things like these cannot be said anymore since it's not politically correct. But apparently it's not a western thing. It's an indian thing, it's a chinese thing, it's an asian thing, it's a latin thing.

Apparently all muslims hate non-muslims and all non-muslims hate muslims (or a majority in both cases). You have to wonder why that is.

If you spread hate, don't be surprised if you get some hate back.


So much for the tolerant "left" some people claim to be.

Dude, you're the one who pretty much defined as a proud islamophobe, and using some absolutely awful arguments for it, without anyone prompting you to do it

I'm not an Islamophobe.

It's just i don't want a religion to tell me what I have to do. That's what bothers me. They don't have women's rights, LGBTQ rights in the Islam (and neither for Christianity or Judaism).

I don't like being told what to do, and risk getting blown up because of it.
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2021, 06:56:57 PM »

Apparently all muslims hate non-muslims and all non-muslims hate muslims (or a majority in both cases).




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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2021, 08:31:40 PM »

I don't know about Sri Lanka being islamophobic but after all those terror attacks, non-believers needing to be punished and refusal to accept more woman's rights, LGBTQ rights and other human rights, being islamophobe is the equivalent of being antinazi or antifascist, not antisemitist. But things like these cannot be said anymore since it's not politically correct. But apparently it's not a western thing. It's an indian thing, it's a chinese thing, it's an asian thing, it's a latin thing.

Apparently all muslims hate non-muslims and all non-muslims hate muslims (or a majority in both cases). You have to wonder why that is.

If you spread hate, don't be surprised if you get some hate back.

Yeah, "things like these cannot be said anymore" because saying that all Muslim people are morally equivalent to Nazis is absolutely insane. Good Lord.
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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2021, 10:57:56 PM »

Laki, it is wrong to equate those nominally identifying with the Islamic faith from Islamists.
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2021, 11:02:10 PM »

Hasina is way better than the opposition in Bangladesh, which is religiously right-wing and anti-India.

This is silly. The reasonable view is that the government and opposition are indistinguishable; it made no difference when Khaleda Zia was prime minister as opposed to Sheikh Hasina, except that Khaleda Zia eventually left office and Sheikh Hasina never will.
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2021, 01:41:25 PM »

Modi is awful.
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2021, 01:45:34 PM »

When I think about Modi, I always feel grateful for only having to deal with Trump
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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2021, 02:16:07 PM »

Guys, just because there's a national rivalry doesn't mean you need to take a side, especially if you are not from the diaspora like Computer09 is. A lot of damage has been done because outsiders have arbitrarily decided one side is "more like us" and pushed their fingers on the scale.

In fact, both Khan and Modi are awful people and incompetent frauds as leaders.
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« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2021, 02:21:23 PM »

I appreciate Laki's fullthroated articulation of views that, while they're tiptoed around even by many conservatives in the US, are common and openly adhered to in much of Continental Europe. It's always good to have such ready evidence against the "European center-right=American left" canard.
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« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2021, 03:19:27 PM »

I appreciate Laki's fullthroated articulation of views that, while they're tiptoed around even by many conservatives in the US, are common and openly adhered to in much of Continental Europe. It's always good to have such ready evidence against the "European center-right=American left" canard.
If Mexico were a Muslim country, the American left's views would be the exact same.
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« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2021, 09:45:23 PM »

I hate Modi too much to care about Imran Khan and Sheikh Hasina seems competent so I guesse she's the best.
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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2022, 11:53:20 AM »

Funny how few votes disgraced president Mahinda Rajapaska who is at this point undeniably the worst of the lot got for being worst.
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« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2022, 12:42:36 AM »

Well Sri Lanka aged badly. I wasn't aware of the issues, and I also wasn't aware of it being a political dynasty. Only left in NAME only.
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« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2022, 12:48:12 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2022, 12:52:46 AM by Laki »

I appreciate Laki's fullthroated articulation of views that, while they're tiptoed around even by many conservatives in the US, are common and openly adhered to in much of Continental Europe. It's always good to have such ready evidence against the "European center-right=American left" canard.

What I did say was that

- There is a lot of intolerance against muslims (and vice versa). Both groups have valid reasons for that, from a superficial perspective. Sure, the reality is more nuanced.

- I've said that I don't like the socially conservative beliefs they have, i'm not lying about that. It's literally among the most socially conservative nations in the world, and all of that is because of their religion.

Also i don't know what you're trying to say with this, but I hope you're not like: "you're racist and you're wrong" and "i'm right and the best" kind of reasoning.

Lastly and above all, I appreciate Arab culture a lot, it's a beautiful language, good food and overall the liberal or more progressive people tend to be people who are easier to befriend than privileged white people.

But yes, i do not like muslim (or christianity or judaism). In fact, i despise Abrahimistic religions, but to be fair christianity and judaism aren't better religions anyway. They're religions of hate, who literally fight against each other despite having the same prophets and almost having the same core beliefs, just slightly different interpretations. The hate towards them is more associated with the along-associated culture and ironically the social conservatism while the ones hating the other are usually socially conservative as well.

We've seen quite recently that the problem is not just: "islam restricting human rights", we've seen very recently that radical christian beliefs can do exactly the same. GOP = Taliban and Supreme Court = Iran's theocratic leaders.

In fact, i don't think there's one person on planet earth who is more similar to the Ayatollah than Clarence Thomas.

Clarence Thomas = American Ayatollah.
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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2022, 04:56:16 PM »

Meant to vote Rajapaska as the worst, clicked submit by mistake.

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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2022, 05:20:39 PM »

Outside of the fact that I absolutely despise Oli now, I still maintain that my vote for him was correct given his developmentalist policies.
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