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« on: December 05, 2020, 06:56:56 PM »

Are you surprised that Tom Malinowski held on to his seat?
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2020, 07:16:03 PM »

I'm more surprised that Kean almost won. I used to think that Trump would have dragged him down, and that may have only been slightly true. Then again, this district, as anti-Trump as it is, was even pretty close in 2018. So perhaps I overestimated how Democratic it actually is.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2020, 05:07:16 AM »

I'm more surprised that Kean almost won. I used to think that Trump would have dragged him down, and that may have only been slightly true. Then again, this district, as anti-Trump as it is, was even pretty close in 2018. So perhaps I overestimated how Democratic it actually is.
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2020, 10:10:09 AM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2020, 10:16:57 AM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2020, 10:29:03 AM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2020, 10:38:26 AM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2020, 10:44:01 AM »

It helped that Kean lives in a Democratic portion of NJ-7. I still don't think this is a good one for the GOP long-term, the Somerset portion is not coming back for them and Hunterdon is still red but trending D.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2020, 05:46:57 PM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.

He could well get a much more Republican district to run in in 2022.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2020, 06:47:57 PM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.

He could well get a much more Republican district to run in in 2022.

I'd rather have him in that district than some Trump cultist. It would probably involve him moving though because Somerset and Union probably wouldn't be part of a potential Republican vote sink district. He lives in Union, to my knowledge.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2020, 06:58:12 PM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.

He could well get a much more Republican district to run in in 2022.

I'd rather have him in that district than some Trump cultist. It would probably involve him moving though because Somerset and Union probably wouldn't be part of a potential Republican vote sink district. He lives in Union, to my knowledge.

Boom: https://davesredistricting.org/join/f03cb506-4850-456c-b12d-eaa371cb21c2

Trump district in the Northwest that includes Kean's hometown of Westfield in Union.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2020, 07:00:52 PM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.

He could well get a much more Republican district to run in in 2022.

I'd rather have him in that district than some Trump cultist. It would probably involve him moving though because Somerset and Union probably wouldn't be part of a potential Republican vote sink district. He lives in Union, to my knowledge.

Boom: https://davesredistricting.org/join/f03cb506-4850-456c-b12d-eaa371cb21c2

Trump district in the Northwest that includes Kean's hometown of Westfield in Union.

That certainly works, but in reality would the Redistricting Commission want to outright hand him a district and not put Westfield in a more Democratic one?
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2020, 07:10:40 PM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.

He could well get a much more Republican district to run in in 2022.

I'd rather have him in that district than some Trump cultist. It would probably involve him moving though because Somerset and Union probably wouldn't be part of a potential Republican vote sink district. He lives in Union, to my knowledge.

Boom: https://davesredistricting.org/join/f03cb506-4850-456c-b12d-eaa371cb21c2

Trump district in the Northwest that includes Kean's hometown of Westfield in Union.

That certainly works, but in reality would the Redistricting Commission want to outright hand him a district and not put Westfield in a more Democratic one?

It would have to be part of a deal to also give Sherrill and Gottheimer safe seats.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2020, 07:12:20 PM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.

He could well get a much more Republican district to run in in 2022.

I'd rather have him in that district than some Trump cultist. It would probably involve him moving though because Somerset and Union probably wouldn't be part of a potential Republican vote sink district. He lives in Union, to my knowledge.

Boom: https://davesredistricting.org/join/f03cb506-4850-456c-b12d-eaa371cb21c2

Trump district in the Northwest that includes Kean's hometown of Westfield in Union.

That certainly works, but in reality would the Redistricting Commission want to outright hand him a district and not put Westfield in a more Democratic one?

He's on the commission, so I'm sure he'll want a more favorable district that he can run in.
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2020, 07:14:31 PM »

Kinda surprised given the national environment, but not that surprised. Malinowski strikes me as a much more formidable incumbent than the CA trio and Shalala. He also didn't face counter trends (e.g. Asians/Hispanics swinging R) in his district unlike Rouda and Smith.

Also, Trump lost that district by nearly double digits. It swung hard against him.

Yeah, Republicans still hold a lot of downballot strength in NJ-07, which is why Kean got close. It was prime Romney country, but Trump was an absolutely terrible fit for it.

Shame that Kean lost. Not exactly my cup of tea ideologically, but he seems like a great guy.

He is a great guy. If he runs again in 2022, he'll have a much better shot.

He could well get a much more Republican district to run in in 2022.

I'd rather have him in that district than some Trump cultist. It would probably involve him moving though because Somerset and Union probably wouldn't be part of a potential Republican vote sink district. He lives in Union, to my knowledge.

Boom: https://davesredistricting.org/join/f03cb506-4850-456c-b12d-eaa371cb21c2

Trump district in the Northwest that includes Kean's hometown of Westfield in Union.

That certainly works, but in reality would the Redistricting Commission want to outright hand him a district and not put Westfield in a more Democratic one?

He's on the commission, so I'm sure he'll want a more favorable district that he can run in.

Is he now? Okay then, maybe we will see something like your district. But as Mr. Phips said that would definitely come with Gottheimer and Sherrill getting safe districts. I suppose Kean would agree to that.
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