democrats, which potential gop candidate do you think could be quite strong vs biden?
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2020, 08:19:18 PM »

a younger populist republican could show an age contrast with Biden so that maybe a liability. However Biden may attract or keep some of the voters he has gained that Harris may struggle with. There is also incumbency that Biden would enjoy but Harris. VPs dont enjoy an incumbency advantage
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2020, 09:54:31 PM »

Can someone explain why Tucker Carlson would be a good nominee or could even get the nominee? He’s basically been able to babble on about nonsense as a TV Host but as a nominee he’d be challenged to that.

But then again the same could’ve been said about trump 2015...

Also Hawley. Every time I see Hawley he reminds me of the douchiest guy in a frat house, which is saying a lot. He’s like Eric Trump without the advantage of being named Trump. He’d deflate quick put to the test in a primary or national campaign faster than Rubio.

For an actual decent opponent I’d say DeSantis/Haley would be a touch ticket to run against. I even think Cruz might be somewhat formidable as much as I hate it. Pence too.
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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2020, 11:18:07 PM »

Probably a Nikki Haley/Dan Crenshaw ticket.
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2020, 11:22:49 PM »


Nailed it on the first reply.
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2020, 12:23:51 AM »

McCain and Romney were supposed to be far more electable than Trump.
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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2020, 12:33:45 AM »

The strongest possible GOP candidate is Mike Rowe.
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2020, 01:57:58 AM »

No. No one carries the same power as Trump. That has become very clear.

The only one who might is Ron DeSantis, because people associate him so strongly with Trump.

To elaborate on this post - I meant that it's not likely that anyone can reach Trump's rural margins. His ability to turn out low-propensity, conspiracist-ish voters is unmatched. The only people who could come close are people who were joined at the hip to him, like DeSantis (because the "Trump is the only 'real' politician" crowd will see them as "Trump-approved"), but close is not equal.

The only way I see Republicans winning in 2024 is by clawing back a huge amount of suburban ground, and the only candidates who could do that would never be able to win a Republican primary. Nikki Haley is probably the only one with a chance, and she'd have to thread the needle to manage it.

The strongest possible GOP candidate is Mike Rowe.

I thought he was a Democrat?
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« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2020, 02:55:33 AM »

Honestly, if DeSantis can lock down Florida for the GOP (not a guarantee, given he's not all that popular there, but that can change as the memory of COVID fades), that's a hell of an asset right from the start.

Let's just say the apportionment ends up like this (could change, obviously). Go ahead and add 2 to these numbers for their new EVs.



Already Dems are down to 302 EVs on the Biden map rather than 306. If the GOP flips GA and AZ back alone (their fallen "Red Wall" states, I guess you could say), on this new apportionment they've already cut Biden's EV total down to 274, at which point flipping literally any other swing state puts Biden under. Biden will want alternate paths to shore himself up given that the GOP will be coming hard for WI and PA no matter what and he really can't afford to lose either. The natural offense states for a Dem would be NC and FL, and if FL is off the table, Biden's gonna really have to focus on offense in NC.

It's REALLY worth remembering when you game out the EC that Biden's same map will likely be worth 302 EVs rather than 306 EVs under the new apportionment. Losing GA's 16 EVs alone eliminates half of Biden's cushion.
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« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2020, 08:31:51 AM »

Pence/Haley. Just enough Trump cred to keep the Trumpees around and just enough non-Trump cred to win some skeptics back. Of course there would be drop-off from the fire-breathers on the far right, but not a ton, and they'd be replaced by more reliable voters who also probably generally younger on the whole.
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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2020, 04:32:29 PM »

Nikki Haley could be quite strong, she would have an appeal to college educated white voters in a way Trump didn't. Marco Rubio is another, he would be a good pick to continue the positive GOP trend with Hispanic voters. He would only solidify the Cubano vote and take Florida out of contention, and since he can actually speak fluent Spanish, I imagine he could reach out to Hispanics outside Florida in a way Republicans have not been able to. He could get a 2004-style margin with Hispanics, if not more.
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