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« on: November 09, 2020, 08:56:47 PM »

Can Tammy Baldwin be defeated in 2024?
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2020, 09:00:11 PM »

Yes, definately, especially if the rural trends in rural areas continue and if Biden's WOW gains were just temporary. It will be an uphill climb for the GOP probably, and they have other more immediate targets, but she's definately not an invincible titan.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2020, 09:02:49 PM »

Can she? Yes. However, given that 2024 will probably be an ok year for the Democrats, I'd say she's probably the favorite, though a lot could change between now and then.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2020, 09:50:24 PM »

Can she? Yes. However, given that 2024 will probably be an ok year for the Democrats, I'd say she's probably the favorite, though a lot could change between now and then.

Honestly, I think the race is going to track with the statewide results.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2020, 09:54:10 PM »

Can she? Yes. However, given that 2024 will probably be an ok year for the Democrats, I'd say she's probably the favorite, though a lot could change between now and then.

Honestly, I think the race is going to track with the statewide results.

She won by 11% while Evers barely managed it and while House Democrats won by 8% statewide. I suspect she's not going to lose all of that appeal, although I wouldn't be surprised to see most of whatever crossover support disappear.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2020, 09:55:30 PM »

It's probably Tilt D. Baldwin was only re-elected by double digits because she faced an awful opponent and 2018 was a Democratic year.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2020, 10:48:27 PM »

Yes but she probably won't be.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2020, 10:50:29 PM »

Anything is possible, but Wisconsin just flipped for Biden, so I doubt Baldwin will be defeated.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2020, 11:08:26 PM »

Potentially, yes, but it won’t be easy for Republicans, and I think they’ll have an easier time beating Stabenow.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2020, 02:20:26 AM »

Potentially, yes, but it won’t be easy for Republicans, and I think they’ll have an easier time beating Stabenow.

Not sure about that, MI is fundamentaly speaking more democratic than WI.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2020, 02:32:48 AM »


She can certainly be beaten, sure, after all Biden barely won WI and the state has likely trended one more point to the right, and it seems that House democrats are losing the congressional vote in WI by a healthy margin.

Now I don't think that WI should be put in the first ring of targets with OH/WV/MT.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2020, 04:20:40 AM »

No, Biden has taken back some of the WOW COUNTIES that were projected to go big for Trump

Unless Harris is Hillary whom disastetous defeat lead to a Trump victory in Erie, PA, WOW Counties of WI and Kent County, MI, Biden is set to win them again in 2016, with ALL STARS BOB CASEY JR, TAMMY BALDWIN AND DEBBIE STABENOW win...
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2020, 04:21:55 AM »


She can certainly be beaten, sure, after all Biden barely won WI and the state has likely trended one more point to the right, and it seems that House democrats are losing the congressional vote in WI by a healthy margin.

Now I don't think that WI should be put in the first ring of targets with OH/WV/MT.

Weren't you the same person that said Biden was gonna lose the WOW counties of WI to Trump, Hillary and Harris are fundamental weaker in the Midwest than Biden is, Baldwin will win with Biden, not Harris or Hillary my at top of ticket for Prez
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2020, 04:24:17 AM »

Yes, definately, especially if the rural trends in rural areas continue and if Biden's WOW gains were just temporary. It will be an uphill climb for the GOP probably, and they have other more immediate targets, but she's definately not an invincible titan.

No, Biden won WOW COUNTIES and cut into R support EASILT THAT WENT TO Trump in 2016
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2020, 04:47:18 AM »

As long as she does about as well as Ron Kind did in the Driftless this year then she'll be fine. We'll have to see how the economy looks in 2024. If Biden's economy is viewed positively then I think Wisconsin probably remains Democratic statewide that year, but even if a Republican wins the state I still think Baldwin can pull it off.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2020, 04:51:40 AM »

French Republican was wrong about WOW COUNTIES that flipped from Trump to Biden in 2020, he will be wrong about then in 2022 and he will be wrong on them in 2024, Biden isn't as disasterius like Hillary was in those swing counties like Hillary or Harris would be
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2020, 05:59:08 AM »

I hope not. I'm still rueing the fact she didn't run for President in 2020.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2020, 06:02:01 AM »

I hope not. I'm still rueing the fact she didn't run for President in 2020.

As with Sherrod Brown, all of the lanes she could have run in were pretty crowded to begin with. Also as with Sherrod Brown, that's less likely to be true in 2024 and probably 2028.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2020, 07:01:42 AM »

Yes. If the Republican nominee for President carries Wisconsin, she will lose.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2020, 07:06:50 AM »

Yes. If the Republican nominee for President carries Wisconsin, she will lose.

You're that confident the Democratic presidential nominee will outrun her?
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2020, 07:18:44 AM »

Yes. If the Republican nominee for President carries Wisconsin, she will lose.

Weren't you the ones that said John James was gonna win and beat  Peter's, you have been wrong on every prediction you have made on the core three WI, MI and PA, and Progressive Moderate is siding with Snowlabrador on Tammy Baldwin and she won by a landslide in 2018
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2020, 07:25:36 AM »

The answer to the question is "YES" obviously. Will she? Who knows. Let's focus on 2021 and 2022 first.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2020, 07:27:59 AM »

The thing about is not to side with Rs and say Tammy Baldwin will lose and Trump as we speak won't give up power,  but popped the champagne and wanted a concession from Hillary. Progressive Moderate has sided with Rs and the lone D with the exception of Snowlabrador, we all know whom how Snowlabrador and how he is about D's chances on Baldwin being defeated

Hillary and Gore had the right to mount legal challenges, and won the PVI, Trump lost the PVI by 5M, no SCOTUS is gonna side with Trump
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2020, 05:38:25 AM »

Yes? She’s probably the most vulnerable Democrat after Manchin, Brown, and Tester (in that order). Unlike Stabenow, she also had the luxury of running against a lousy opponent/campaigner in 2018, which, combined with the massive Democratic wave and the state's tendency to swing against the president's party, surely inflated her margin. I’m not sure I buy her outperforming Biden by more than 1 point or so provided that Republicans run a credible candidate.

Her approval numbers have never been particularly high either.
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2020, 06:18:26 AM »
« Edited: November 12, 2020, 06:32:29 AM by Frenchrepublican »

Yes? She’s probably the most vulnerable Democrat after Manchin, Brown, and Tester (in that order). Unlike Stabenow, she also had the luxury of running against a lousy opponent/campaigner in 2018, which, combined with the massive Democratic wave and the state's tendency to swing against the president's party, surely inflated her margin. I’m not sure I buy her outperforming Biden by more than 1 point or so provided that Republicans run a credible candidate.

Her approval numbers have never been particularly high either.

TBH there is a big gap between the WV/OH/MT trio and WI.

The first three are flippable in a 2020 kind of climate (Biden or Harris winning the PV by 5 / congressional democrats winning the CGV by 3) or even in a ''small'' D wave (D+7 to D+9 year) while flipping WI would likely require a climate more similar to the one of 2016.
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