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« Reply #75 on: June 24, 2020, 12:18:33 PM »

Per CNN Exit Polls
2012 was 72 % White
2016 was 71 % White

Now Siena says 61 % White which would be a 9-Point drop in four years. Not going to happen!
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« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2020, 12:20:00 PM »

full results

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/crosstabs0624release/18307fed6cb2dc5a/full.pdf
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« Reply #77 on: June 24, 2020, 12:32:52 PM »

The Republican Party needs to ABANDON Trump right now!


The time do do it was during impeachment
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« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2020, 12:36:48 PM »

Per CNN Exit Polls
2012 was 72 % White
2016 was 71 % White

Now Siena says 61 % White which would be a 9-Point drop in four years. Not going to happen!

If you don't like this poll and don't want to accept it, that is your prerogative, but the argument you make above isn't terribly meaningful with regard to this poll because it has also Biden and Trump virtually tied among whites. 
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« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2020, 12:37:35 PM »

Man quoting him when he can't reply must be like torture to him. We all need to do it more often!
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« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2020, 01:04:36 PM »

Per CNN Exit Polls
2012 was 72 % White
2016 was 71 % White

Now Siena says 61 % White which would be a 9-Point drop in four years. Not going to happen!

If you don't like this poll and don't want to accept it, that is your prerogative, but the argument you make above isn't terribly meaningful with regard to this poll because it has also Biden and Trump virtually tied among whites.  

It's an A+ poll that they went out of their way to prepare everyone for yesterday by breaking down the methodology in detail to combat the unskewers, and STILL we have people here trying to unskew it.

Talk about sad and desperate.

Never mind this is right in line with CNN and other quality pollsters lately. If it was an outlier, more skepticism may be warranted, but now it's blatantly obvious that double digit leads for Biden are the new norm.
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« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2020, 01:29:45 PM »

If you unskew the race crosstabs, its still a +12 poll.
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« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2020, 02:22:05 PM »

Beautiful poll! An incumbent president is 36% is beyond atrocious. But well deserved for all the incompetence and race to the bottom. Uncle Joe will clobber Trump and he knows it, otherwise he wouldn't come up with this ridiculous claim of rigged mail ballots.
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« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2020, 02:22:36 PM »

Can’t wait to bump in November.

Serious question: how can, in your eyes, Trump possibly turn this around by 10+ points by November?
Improved economy, Covid vaccine, clear debate wins, Joe Biden actually starts speaking, ect.   Don’t get me wrong I don’t think Trump is going to win, but anyone buying a result like this needs a reality check. 

Joe Biden has been speaking. I know the trumpers think that Biden is going to collapse in some spectacular flameout (despite any examples of this having happened before at any point in his political career), but people outside of the fox news bubble actually tend to like Biden when they hear him.

What right-wingers don't seem to get is that the problem isn't that Joe Biden isn't speaking, it's that trump won't stop speaking.
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« Reply #84 on: June 24, 2020, 02:24:14 PM »

TX is definitely winnable in this environment. With Trump only ahead by 2
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« Reply #85 on: June 24, 2020, 02:43:26 PM »



Dukakis was up by that much in ONE poll, right after the Democratic convention, during an age when huge convention bumps were still a thing.
To compare Biden's current lead with Dukakis is disingenuous and ahistorical.
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« Reply #86 on: June 24, 2020, 02:44:10 PM »

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« Reply #87 on: June 24, 2020, 02:48:03 PM »


I dunno man, Biden's 14 point lead in this poll comes off as "very flawed" to me. Clearly, a Haberman-approved candidate would be leading by 50+ points right now.
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« Reply #88 on: June 24, 2020, 03:23:31 PM »

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« Reply #89 on: June 24, 2020, 04:24:27 PM »

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« Reply #90 on: June 24, 2020, 07:30:51 PM »

But what about the Nascar hoax!?
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« Reply #91 on: June 24, 2020, 08:26:47 PM »



trump got so pissy from this 538 A+ rated poll, he decided to get-out his color Sharpies and present his own poll to his cult ... (see image above).
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