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DavidB.
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2019, 12:43:09 PM »

I think the memories of the ancient Battle of Kosovo might be too strong in the Serbian national psyche to take an utilitarian attitude toward this.  
Yes, but that's why I drew the Israel parallel. Judea & Samaria are Israel's heartland. Still, if it's between keeping Israel a Jewish state or having a non-Jewish state incorporating J&S, I'd choose for the former option. But you're absolutely right that this would be incredibly painful for many Serbs, and I respect that.

I’ve only ever heard the pro-Serb argument maybe once, and never articulated. Could you go into some detail? Yugoslavia is not my strong area.
No UN Security Council approval for an intervention (Russia and China vetoed), so the U.S. decided to go at it alone and the remainder of NATO followed. It was the first time the UN was sidelined and a NATO intervention happened anyway. You know I'm not exactly a UN supporter, but the ramifications of such an intervention are serious (good luck trying to take the moral highground when arguing against a Crimea or Abkhazia intervention as the U.S. now) and those who find international law to be important could rightly consider the intervention to be illegal.

Not that this matters to any of the great powers, who always use "international law" whenever convenient and ignore it otherwise, but for an alliance that claims to consist of liberal democracies the hypocrisy is even more painful.

What's more, this intervention fits within the pattern of the U.S. consistently siding with Muslims and against Christians on the Balkans, a policy that, with the U.S. and the EU's ill-advised, religious commitment to the Dayton agreement in Bosnia, sadly remains in place even under this administration.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2019, 07:14:36 PM »

@David the first two paragraphs make sense, even if I’m uncomfortable with some of the ramifications.

Regarding the third paragraph, complaints over bias toward Kosovans only make sense if we assume “both sides” to be equally culpable. This is not the narrative here in the US. Can you correct the record? I have a relative who’s of the opinion that events in the Balkans resembled less a genocide and more a conflict between combatants, but I don’t know if that’s being argued here as well.
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