Opinion of German political parties

[DavidB.]

AfD, Die Linke, FDP and CSU are FF parties on balance, even though the first two harbor quite some HPs. Can't vote HP on the SPD even though these days they probably are. Can vote HP on CDU and Grüne.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Only the AfD is a Freedom Party.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

CDU - lean FP
CSU - lean HP
CDU/CSU - lean FP
SPD - big FP
FDP - lean FP
AfD - big HP
Grüne - big FP
Die Linke - lean HP

[DavidB.]

CDU - lean FP
CSU - lean HP
CDU/CSU - lean FP
SPD - big FP
FDP - lean FP
AfD - big HP
Grüne - big FP
Die Linke - lean HP

You know Erdogan has advised against supporting the SPD, right?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

FWIW I'd have a higher opinion of Linke if they set a policy banning anyone who was in or informed for the Stasi from membership.

Actually I'd like if German law banned anyone with Stasi connections and all WWII veterans from Parliament.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

CDU - lean FP
CSU - lean HP
CDU/CSU - lean FP
SPD - big FP
FDP - lean FP
AfD - big HP
Grüne - big FP
Die Linke - lean HP

You know Erdogan has advised against supporting the SPD, right?

And? The SPD are pretty good regardless of what Erdogan says. They would have been one of my top choices in this election.

[America Needs R'hllor]

FWIW I'd have a higher opinion of Linke if they set a policy banning anyone who was in or informed for the Stasi from membership.

Actually I'd like if German law banned anyone with Stasi connections and all WWII veterans from Parliament.

So you'd like lawmakers to concentrate on enacting a law that bans 90 year old people from parliament?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

FWIW I'd have a higher opinion of Linke if they set a policy banning anyone who was in or informed for the Stasi from membership.

Actually I'd like if German law banned anyone with Stasi connections and all WWII veterans from Parliament.

So you'd like lawmakers to concentrate on enacting a law that bans 90 year old people from parliament?

Well I'm talking ideally, not worth pursuing now. Say if this was established as policy in 1989 after reunification.

[Vosem]

CDU, CSU, and FDP are all FF parties; then, by least to most HP, you have Die Gruene, SPD, AfD, and then, after a very large gap, Die Linke.

[JA]

HP | CDU/CSU (moderately), SPD (slightly), FDP (moderately), AfD (highly), Die Grünen (slightly)
FP | Die Linke

[The Govanah Jake]

CDU/CSU:Strong HP - Immigration Policy + Overall Social and Economic Conservatism kills her for me

SPD: Likely HP, due to being even worse on Immigration policy and foreign affairs (And wanting
more of a European Superstate then Merkel) though i put them as only likely because i do support
a Social Democratic Policy. A Anti-European Union, Anti-Mass Immigration and populist SPD would make me a solid voter for them but i doubt that will happen

AfD: Slight FP. I support there Immigration policy mostly (especially on the EU and Mass Immigration) and i would vote for them if i were a German Citizen at least for this election. But they are a social/economic conservative party and are skeptical of climate change so i would not be a solid supporter of them at all. Also i don't really support there opposition to letting in immigrants based on nationality (rather then focus on cutting immigration from all areas and especially from the Middle East and Africa based on economic and social reasons, not nationality) either.

FDP: Slight HP. I would off said Lean to Likely HP earlier but Christian Lindner's introduction of tougher policy's towards immigration and the EU, though not far enough at all, is a good step for the party. Though i doubt this slight Euroskepticism is valid at all and is mostly opportunism. Also i dont support the whole "Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal" aspect of the party.

Die Linke: Slight HP. Don't support Anti-Capitalism as a part of the party along with Democratic Socialism. I support there support for the democratization of the EU institutions and anti-neo liberalism in the European Union (and very much dislike there support for closer EU integration)but i find there whole foreign policy to be unreasonable and either not far enough, too far, or infeasible. So i put a Slight HP and that is pretty stable and would take a stack up of the party for me to vote for them.

Grüne: Slightly HP. Support there environmentalism and ant-climate change chances and generally support there social issues positions and probably would support there economic policy (Along with Labour and some of Die Linke) but they seem just like any other Pro-European Center Right or Center Left party without being unique so i probably wouldn't vote for them unless they find a good candidate or there party changes.

[Dr. MB]

FP to HP: Linke, then Greens, then SPD, then FPD, then CDU-CSU, then AFD

[Intell]

Linke is the positive party in the German Parliament.

[mvd10]

FWIW I'd have a higher opinion of Linke if they set a policy banning anyone who was in or informed for the Stasi from membership.

Actually I'd like if German law banned anyone with Stasi connections and all WWII veterans from Parliament.

Wouldn't banning all WWII veterans from parliament be rather impractical since you would be left with an enormous shortage of politicians by the 60s and 70s? Most of the early Bundeswehr was commanded by Wehrmacht officers who probably were aware of war crimes during WWII even though there was screening. I understand banning voluntary SS members from parliament (and high ranking Nazi officials who somehow weren't punished definitely shouldn't serve in parliament), but most WWII veterans didn't really have a choice. It's a good thing they don't receive the same recognition as their American and British counterparts, but I wouldn't go as far as banning them from parliament (even Helmut Schmidt was a WWII veteran).

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

I will never get used to the forum's obscure obsession with the poster boy's one-man party.

[Maxwell]

All parties are varieties of horrible or lol (SPD) except Die Linke is neutral I guess.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

It's a pity that the CDU and CSU aren't listed as two separate options.
Many German considers voting the CDU, but hate the CSU's special status.
And also vice versa: Many CSU voters gave their vote to the AfD because every vote for the CSU is a vote for Merkel, who in their opinion is way too liberal.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

It's a pity that the CDU and CSU aren't listed as two separate options.
Many German considers voting the CDU, but hate the CSU's special status.
And also vice versa: Many CSU voters gave their vote to the AfD because every vote for the CSU is a vote for Merkel, who in their opinion is way too liberal.

Isn't Merkel a centrist?

[Lechasseur]

It's a pity that the CDU and CSU aren't listed as two separate options.
Many German considers voting the CDU, but hate the CSU's special status.
And also vice versa: Many CSU voters gave their vote to the AfD because every vote for the CSU is a vote for Merkel, who in their opinion is way too liberal.

I agree with this. If it weren't for the fact that voting for the CSU was a vote for Merkel, if I was German I would have voted for them, but given it would have helped Merkel I would have voted AfD.

[Former President tack50]

CDU/CSU: Lean HP. They are pretty bad, but for a mainstream European conservative party it could be worse.

SPD: Strong FF. I agree with them the most. The only thing I dislike is that they are way too tolerant of grand coalitions. Grand Coalitions should be an absolute last resort thing. In 2005 and 2013 they should have gone with R2G.

Greens: Lean HP. I personally hate their inmigration and social policies with a passion and even their speciality, green policies, normally do more harm than good

Linke: Lean FF. Better than the Greens in the things I dislike about them. Bit too extremist, pro-Russian and close to the former East Germany but I can live with that, SPD will probably force them to moderate.

FDP: Lean HP. A cuasi-libertarian party. I disagree with them completely in economics (I can live with moderate liberal policies like those of CDU, but I can't go that far). They are strong in digital rights and the like but that's it

AfD: Strong HP: They are a terrible party in everything other than inmigration policy. And even in that aspect they are probably too extremist.

[mvd10]

It's a pity that the CDU and CSU aren't listed as two separate options.
Many German considers voting the CDU, but hate the CSU's special status.
And also vice versa: Many CSU voters gave their vote to the AfD because every vote for the CSU is a vote for Merkel, who in their opinion is way too liberal.

Isn't Merkel a centrist?

She's part of the conservative/centre-right party and she ran a really right-wing campaign in 2005, but after nearly losing an unloseable election she pulled them to the centre hard. A lot of CDU/CSU voters want her to move to the right, especially on crime and immigration. That's where my boy Jens Spahn comes in . Most CDU/CSU voters and politicians are to the right of Merkel, though some potential Merkel successors also are very centrist (Kramp-Karrenbauer, von der Leyen). When push comes to shove Merkel probably still is a centre-right politician, but pictures like these don't exist without a reason:



(lol at the NSA joke btw, I completely forgot about that scandal)

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

CDU/CSU: Neutral (CSU is keeping this one from being a lean FP for me)
SPD: Lean FP
AfD:hard HP
FDP: lean FP. Only because of social issues and not economic ones
90/Grune: FP. Probably align most with these guys, followed by...
Linke: FP. A bit too extreme for my tastes in a lot of ways, but I still align with them a lot.

[Lechasseur]

AfD, Die Linke, FDP and CSU are FF parties on balance

This in all honesty (I'd prefer the CSU to the other two if it didn't mean supporting Merkel).

Die Linke, the SPD, the CDU and the Greens are all massive HP.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

CDU is massive FP, FDP is mild FP, the rest are all HPs.