Steve Bullock VS Kamala Harris

[RINO Tom]

What makes Atlas think a conservative democrat would ever win the nomination this day in age? He's not competitive for 2020, especially against Harris.

LOL, holy shlt, he's not conservative...

[Coraxion]

What makes Atlas think a conservative democrat would ever win the nomination this day in age? He's not competitive for 2020, especially against Harris.

LOL, holy shlt, he's not conservative...

He's more conservative than Obama and Clinton. Half of the party think that those two are "moderate Republicans", and he's more conservative than them, so he may as well be a conservative using the Bernie bros' logic. And yet... Bernie bros seem to like him. It seems to me that Bernie bros have motivations other than ideology when it comes to supporting candidates.

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

What makes Atlas think a conservative democrat would ever win the nomination this day in age? He's not competitive for 2020, especially against Harris.

LOL, holy shlt, he's not conservative...

He's more conservative than Obama and Clinton. Half of the party think that those two are "moderate Republicans", and he's more conservative than them, so he may as well be a conservative using the Bernie bros' logic. And yet... Bernie bros seem to like him. It seems to me that Bernie bros have motivations other than ideology when it comes to supporting candidates.

I mean, Bullock has a strong liberal record on campaign finance, which was a big issue of the Bernie campaign, but aside from that, I don't really see why the most progressive members of the party would be particularly excited about him. Harris is more liberal overall, unless I'm terrible mistaken.

[Coraxion]

What makes Atlas think a conservative democrat would ever win the nomination this day in age? He's not competitive for 2020, especially against Harris.

LOL, holy shlt, he's not conservative...

He's more conservative than Obama and Clinton. Half of the party think that those two are "moderate Republicans", and he's more conservative than them, so he may as well be a conservative using the Bernie bros' logic. And yet... Bernie bros seem to like him. It seems to me that Bernie bros have motivations other than ideology when it comes to supporting candidates.

I mean, Bullock has a strong liberal record on campaign finance, which was a big issue of the Bernie campaign, but aside from that, I don't really see why the most progressive members of the party would be particularly excited about him. Harris is more liberal overall, unless I'm terrible mistaken.

Exactly my point. White male Bernie bros don't care as much about ideology as they do about whether the candidate is a strong woman that's threatening to them and whether the candidate evokes nostalgia about our country's dark past.

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What makes Atlas think a conservative democrat would ever win the nomination this day in age? He's not competitive for 2020, especially against Harris.

LOL, holy shlt, he's not conservative...

He's more conservative than Obama and Clinton. Half of the party think that those two are "moderate Republicans", and he's more conservative than them, so he may as well be a conservative using the Bernie bros' logic. And yet... Bernie bros seem to like him. It seems to me that Bernie bros have motivations other than ideology when it comes to supporting candidates.

I mean, Bullock has a strong liberal record on campaign finance, which was a big issue of the Bernie campaign, but aside from that, I don't really see why the most progressive members of the party would be particularly excited about him. Harris is more liberal overall, unless I'm terrible mistaken.

Exactly my point. White male Bernie bros don't care as much about ideology as they do about whether the candidate is a strong woman that's threatening to them and whether the candidate evokes nostalgia about our country's dark past.

Gosh, great strategy to call everyone who doesn't support your sh**tty candidate a sexist. That worked out so well last year.

[Mr. Smith]

What makes Atlas think a conservative democrat would ever win the nomination this day in age? He's not competitive for 2020, especially against Harris.

LOL, holy shlt, he's not conservative...

He's more conservative than Obama and Clinton. Half of the party think that those two are "moderate Republicans", and he's more conservative than them, so he may as well be a conservative using the Bernie bros' logic. And yet... Bernie bros seem to like him. It seems to me that Bernie bros have motivations other than ideology when it comes to supporting candidates.

I mean, Bullock has a strong liberal record on campaign finance, which was a big issue of the Bernie campaign, but aside from that, I don't really see why the most progressive members of the party would be particularly excited about him. Harris is more liberal overall, unless I'm terrible mistaken.

Exactly my point. White male Bernie bros don't care as much about ideology as they do about whether the candidate is a strong woman that's threatening to them and whether the candidate evokes nostalgia about our country's dark past.

And Clintonistas, especially white male ones don't care as much about ideology as they do about whether the candidate is some check-the-box minority of some kind so that no one will call 'em racist or sexist or what have you. The idea scares 'em enough that they'll white knight off any legitimate criticism. And some of them seem to whine and obsess over imperfections of the past, and they look through a mere 50 year lens.  This is what entitles them to idiot 'pinions that ask smugly "oooh when was this country ever great"

Sorry guys, the War on Poverty dented the inequality bigly, Reaganomics, Third-Way-ism (which Booker epitomizes)...they encouraged the opposite.

[President Johnson]

I like them both and I'd love to have them on a ticket together. But I would support Bullock, because I think he would make a slightly better candidate for the general election. Nevertheless I believe that Harris would win the primary by a fair margin. But Bullock could still win if she makes a major gaffe and/or he runs a very good primary campaign.

Senator Kamala Harris
Governor Steve Bullock


If Bullock pulls it off, maybe this:

Governor Steve Bullock
Senator Kamala Harris

[Possiblymaybe]

What makes Atlas think a conservative democrat would ever win the nomination this day in age? He's not competitive for 2020, especially against Harris.

LOL, holy shlt, he's not conservative...

He's more conservative than Obama and Clinton. Half of the party think that those two are "moderate Republicans", and he's more conservative than them, so he may as well be a conservative using the Bernie bros' logic. And yet... Bernie bros seem to like him. It seems to me that Bernie bros have motivations other than ideology when it comes to supporting candidates.

I mean, Bullock has a strong liberal record on campaign finance, which was a big issue of the Bernie campaign, but aside from that, I don't really see why the most progressive members of the party would be particularly excited about him. Harris is more liberal overall, unless I'm terrible mistaken.

Exactly my point. White male Bernie bros don't care as much about ideology as they do about whether the candidate is a strong woman that's threatening to them and whether the candidate evokes nostalgia about our country's dark past.

And Clintonistas, especially white male ones don't care as much about ideology as they do about whether the candidate is some check-the-box minority of some kind so that no one will call 'em racist or sexist or what have you. The idea scares 'em enough that they'll white knight off any legitimate criticism. And some of them seem to whine and obsess over imperfections of the past, and they look through a mere 50 year lens.  This is what entitles them to idiot 'pinions that ask smugly "oooh when was this country ever great"

Sorry guys, the War on Poverty dented the inequality bigly, Reaganomics, Third-Way-ism (which Booker epitomizes)...they encouraged the opposite.

I am a Bernie supporter, people need to learn how to tackle the ball not the man/woman.
If people are posting about who a candidate has slept with (as has been done with Harris). There's definetly some sexism at play.
Using Identity politics as an insult against minority candidates is just a flawed argument it's like you are saying we have had 1 minority president out of 45, enough already.
Trump ran a campaign tailored to white anxiety, his message was rooted in what one could call identity politics, but yet some people on the left prefer to fret about democratic female and minority candidates as if they are robbing white males of their rightful place.

[Neoliberal Shill]

And Clintonistas, especially white male ones don't care as much about ideology as they do about whether the candidate is some check-the-box minority of some kind so that no one will call 'em racist or sexist or what have you. The idea scares 'em enough that they'll white knight off any legitimate criticism. And some of them seem to whine and obsess over imperfections of the past, and they look through a mere 50 year lens.  This is what entitles them to idiot 'pinions that ask smugly "oooh when was this country ever great"

Sorry guys, the War on Poverty dented the inequality bigly, Reaganomics, Third-Way-ism (which Booker epitomizes)...they encouraged the opposite.

As a white, male, third-party Clintonista, I can definitely sat this does not represent me. In a candidate, I want someone who is expreienced and does not resort to populist, anti-wall street rhetoric. I want someone who is fully globalist (pro-rated, pro-open borders, pro-United Nations.) I want someone who supports high state spending on infrastructure, healthcare, and education, but low intervention in the market economy. I want someone who is mildly interventionist, but not in a "America can go at it alone way." All else being equal, I might prefer a first woman or minority over a white man because I do care about making history, so I might support Klobuchar over Biden, for example, when they have such similar policy. However, I would never support Warren over someone like Biden or Booker, so identity politics does not have priority.
PS. I do have the "smug, idiot 'pinion" that America has never been better than today, except perhaps in 2016.

[Beet]

The idea that identity doesn't matter is absurd, of course it matters. It just shouldn't become a partisan issue. The worst possible outcome is that the GOP becomes a white identity only party and the Democrats become a minority identity party only and instead of disagreeing on policy, elections become a matter of which ethnic group comes out on top. The Democrats in my humble opinion should reach out more to white voters and the GOP should reach out more to minorities. Then, they should have debates over things like foreign policy and economic policy that are settled via elections, like it used to be. Politics should be a war of ideas, not a race war. There are a lot of black conservatives, and Asian conservatives like Sbane who should be GOP voters and would be in a world without racism. And people like EnglishPete who rail against corporate elites, or TN Volunteer who likes Corbyn, should be Democrats.